Smoke on the Water (12v battery fire)

Mar 23, 2009
139
Rafiki 35 North East, MD
I needed to replace the house battery aboard our boat this weekend. The house and starter battery are in a fiberglass battery box that is accessible through an access hatch in the cockpit floor, under a removable teak floor grate.

I pulled the dead house battery and good starter battery out of the battery box, cleaned the box out, put the new house battery in, put the good starter battery back in, and hooked the wiring back up. Then I shut the port in the cockpit floor, replaced the teak grate, and went into the cabin to turn on the main battery selector switch. The switch would not turn.

While standing with my hand still on the switch, I started hearing popping/hissing noises. It took about 5 seconds to determine it was coming from the general vicinity of the battery box. I pulled out the floor grate, lifted up the hatch panel, and saw that what had been a perfectly good starter battery was on fire, with flames and a cloud of smoke and battery acid spewing from the top of it.

Nothing, and I mean nothing, will raise your heart rate like seeing unexpected flames coming out of your boat.

5 seconds later, I was standing in the companionway directing a fire extinguisher into the battery box and neighboring engine compartment. Every time I stopped spraying the fire extenguisher, the battery would catch fire again. Worried I'd run out of fire extinguishers before the battery depleted its charge, I used a pair of insulated diagonal cutters to cut the lead to the battery.

I've included a picture of the battery afterward. After the smoke cleared, where the terminal used to be on the left of the battery was a melted hole in the battery case. I did not realize how much acid escaped the battery until I sprinkled baking soda into the battery box and saw it reacting to neutralize the acid. The insulation was melted off of much of the wiring in the battery box. Every surface in the engine compartment was coated with material from the fire extinguisher. I am lucky that is all the damage there was.

It appears that between removing and reinstalling the starter battery from the battery box, I somehow turned it around so that when I re-wired it, the positive and negative terminals were reversed. This was an easily avoidable mistake--I should have double-checked the terminals before connecting the wires.

I am posting this here not for advice (I'm fully aware of what mistake I made), but as a reminder that 12 volt batteries can be dangerous if not wired correctly. Also, it is prudent to have a fire extinguisher and a pair of insulated wire cutters at the ready when doing any work involving the batteries.
 

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Nov 7, 2012
678
1978 Catalina 30 Wilbur-by-the-Sea
Yikes.

I added a 30 amp breaker on my house bank just to prevent this type of event. Thanks for sharing. You hear about theory but pictures bring it home.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,723
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Human error IS yet one more reason every battery bank should have a FUSE!

GLAD YOU ARE OK!
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
As cheap as insurance for this as you will ever find.

 
Apr 2, 2011
185
Catalina 27 Niceville, FL
"The amount of experience gained is directly proportional to the equipment ruined."
A mechanic
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
As cheap as insurance for this as you will ever find.

very good choice jack i have them on alt,sterling charger , starter feed and also to my bat switch one for reserve and house bank ...don't leave the dock with out them and carry spares
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
I always thought that battery posts are of different diameters and one cannot cross connect. The positive will not fit on the negative terminal, or is it the other way around? Regardless, is this not a true statement that the terminals are different sizes?

I too am glad all is well. I too had a battery go south, but it was a new charger that caused it to do so. The charger eventually burned out, not the battery.
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
Thanks for posting this. We all need safety reminders to keep us from getting complacent.

Brian D The posts are different sizes, but not the same story for the threaded terminals. Having said that they would be safer if they were different sizes. At least on my boat I can interchange the nuts. Fortunately I haven't tried interchanging wiring.

Ken
 

Tejas

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Dec 15, 2010
164
Beneteau First 36.7 Lake Travis
I replaced both the house and starting battery just last week, and can see how easily this could happen. However, I'd read Maine Sails' articles on battery fusing and battery terminal covers and thought I was protecting the wiring. As he mentions in an earlier post to this thread, I was also protecting the system from myself.
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,476
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
I always thought that battery posts are of different diameters and one cannot cross connect. The positive will not fit on the negative terminal, or is it the other way around? Regardless, is this not a true statement that the terminals are different sizes?

I too am glad all is well. I too had a battery go south, but it was a new charger that caused it to do so. The charger eventually burned out, not the battery.
All my batteries used to be 1/2 on the neg and 9/16 nuts on the pos. Have not found this on the last three I have purchased.:cry:
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,272
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
All my batteries used to be 1/2 on the neg and 9/16 nuts on the pos. Have not found this on the last three I have purchased.:cry:
That's interesting. I just purchased new Odyssey AGM batteries and the negative and positive threaded battery terminals are different sizes.
 

Dan_Y

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Oct 13, 2008
521
Hunter 36 Hampton
Wow wow wow! That was quick thinking to cut the cable. Glad you had cutters near by and didn't get burned. I better check the charge in my fire extinguishers...
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,723
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Some things to consider...

#1 it sounds as if the batt switch was on during the short circuit and got welded. Even if it moves again it should be replaced.

#2 All batteries involved should be replaced.

#3 All battery cables should be thoroughly inspected, as in every inch of cable and if any jacket melting is noted it should be replaced.

#4 A fire extinguisher will knock down active flame but wont do anything to stop a dead short circuit. Using the cutters was the best option you had. If the batt switch had been OFF it could have been used to stop the short but it seems to have welded before you got to it. Always turn the battery switch off when doing any work on the batteries.

#5 Definitely add fuses within 7" of the battery as they would have stopped this in milliseconds...
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,723
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
That's interesting. I just purchased new Odyssey AGM batteries and the negative and positive threaded battery terminals are different sizes.
Some battery makers, including Odyssey, still ship 3/8" for the positive and 5/16" for the negative. Deka/East Penn and some others now ship 5/16" pos & 5/16" neg... The old standard of 3/8" & 5/16" is sadly no longer a standard practice....
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,370
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
I'm glad you posted this as a lesson and a reminder to always be prepared. I NEVER would have thought to use the diagonal cutters and I don't always have a pair on the boat. I think that I will make sure I have a pair dedicated to the boat. Several years back, I crossed a neg and pos lead in my electrical panel when I closed the panel door. A lead had come loose and touched the wrong buss. The speed at which the wire burned up was impressive and I was lucky enough to turn the switch off to prevent any further damage. It was on a lead which should have been fused, but wasn't. Two things, I learned ... turn the switch off when working within the panel and install fuses where necessary.

Glad to hear that you prevented a tragedy!
 
Mar 23, 2009
139
Rafiki 35 North East, MD
As cheap as insurance for this as you will ever find.

I will definitely be investing in these. There were fuses between the batteries and the panel, but they weren't close enough to the battery to prevent the short I created by wiring the battery in backwards. Fuses directly on the battery terminals would have prevented this problem altogether.
 
Mar 23, 2009
139
Rafiki 35 North East, MD
I NEVER would have thought to use the diagonal cutters and I don't always have a pair on the boat. I think that I will make sure I have a pair dedicated to the boat.
I've been carrying diagonal cutters aboard since getting caught out in a freakish storm a few years ago in my last boat. The 60+ kt wind blew my mainsail ties off and ballooned the sail out (thus knocking the boat over) but I couldn't just loose the mainsheet because the end of the boom was attached to the backstay by a shackle on a length of stainless cable and the shackle would not release under load. If I'd been able to cut that cable, I would have saved the mainsail. (That's also a good argument for a dedicated topping lift instead of attaching the boom to the backstay.)

Diagonal cutters also make removing and installing cotter pins a breeze, because you can use the angled head like a lever to pull the cotter pins out or bend the tails of new cotter pins.