Searching for the correct size electric windlass

Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
I was just looking at a Spencer 46 on Yachtworld.com. Equipped with a Maxwell 2200 12-volt electric windlass on deck. So, you got me on this one:doh:. Perhaps for the sake of novelty.
 

Noyrt

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Jan 7, 2019
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Spencer 44 Jacksonville FL
Ok,,, Nuff said,,, don't need to open that can of worms then.... I'll just run the larger wire back to the bank of 4 (12V). And thus get a 12V windlass... thanks for the opinions...
 
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Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Personally, I don’t see why anyone needs a 24-volt windlass to lift 5/16” chain a few dozen feet off the bottom. Can anybody explain it? I'm willing to learn.:)
These things happen to a man when he spends a cold wet night on deck pumping a manual windlass and retrieving rode 6 inches at a time. Pretty soon you can talk yourself into a 24v, 1,500 watt monster powered windlass just to make sure the nightmare never returns! :yikes:
 

Noyrt

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Jan 7, 2019
12
Spencer 44 Jacksonville FL
One more thought in my own defense.... LOL,, since it is a fairly long run under the floor, I didn't think of rewiring the boat just splitting my bank of 4 into two banks of two each (Series / Parallel) Then I wouldn't have to add a battery up front (maybe) and could run a smaller gauge wire back to the bank of batteries. Didn't semm like it would be that bad.. Just the charging system was a questionable issue..
 

Noyrt

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Jan 7, 2019
12
Spencer 44 Jacksonville FL
Personally, I don’t see why anyone needs a 24-volt windlass to lift 5/16” chain a few dozen feet off the bottom. Can anybody explain it? I'm willing to learn.:)
I guess just overkill,, I've always just been bigger, better, faster, more.... when I can afford it.. :) Thanks for the reply..
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
These things happen to a man when he spends a cold wet night on deck pumping a manual windlass and retrieving rode 6 inches at a time. Pretty soon you can talk yourself into a 24v, 1,500 watt monster powered windlass just to make sure the nightmare never returns! :yikes:
Then he comes here and runs into us, whereupon we (including Mainsail) attempt to rescue, and reassure, him.;) Oh, to be among such distinguished company.
 
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Jan 22, 2008
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Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
Someone earlier said the windlass hauls the weight of the anhor and the weight of the chain still down. Seems to me, you only lift the weight of the chain suspended in the water, plus the anchor when it is off the bottom. N'est pas?
 
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Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Someone earlier said the windlass hauls the weight of the anchor and the weight of the chain still down. Seems to me, you only lift the weight of the chain suspended in the water, plus the anchor when it is off the bottom. N'est pas?
Oui, when the boat is brought up short. At that point the windlass begins to haul up the remaining chain plus the anchor. That would be its heaviest (vertical) load if not tasked to break out the anchor, which would increase the load until the anchor comes free. As the chain and anchor are hauled up, the load on the windlass decreases proportionally. Ever notice how it (windlass) speeds up near the end, as most of the chain has been recovered?
 
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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Oh... I thought it sped up because it wanted to share the bottom mud with the boats fore deck... :stir:
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Someone earlier said the windlass hauls the weight of the anhor and the weight of the chain still down. Seems to me, you only lift the weight of the chain suspended in the water, plus the anchor when it is off the bottom. N'est pas?
You are also pulling the the boat's windage toward the anchor and you are attempting to do so as quickly as possible because it is raining and blowing a gale and you didn't want to insist that your Funny Little Honey come up on deck to motor you forward. You want to return to the cabin in your wet boxer shorts, wash the mud from your hands and announce that the jasper next door dragged anchor but you got it all straightened out no problem. She quickly drifts back to sleep because she sails with the Anchor King!
 
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Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
You are also pulling the the boat's windage toward the anchor and you are attempting to do so as quickly as possible because is raining and blowing a gale and you didn't want to insist that your Funny Little Honey come up on deck to motor you forward. You want to return to the cabin in your wet boxer shorts, wash the mud from your hands and announce that the jasper next door dragged anchor but you got it all straightened out no problem. She quickly drifts back to sleep because she sails with the Anchor King!
Here's where you need a windlass remote control console operable from the cockpit helm.:dancing: One of my next improvements.:D
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
You are also pulling the the boat's windage toward the anchor and you are attempting to do so as quickly as possible because it is raining and blowing a gale and you didn't want to insist that your Funny Little Honey come up on deck to motor you forward. You want to return to the cabin in your wet boxer shorts, wash the mud from your hands and announce that the jasper next door dragged anchor but you got it all straightened out no problem. She quickly drifts back to sleep because she sails with the Anchor King!
Here's where you need a windlass remote control switch from the cockpit helm.:dancing: One of my next improvements.:D
So many thoughts. So many ideas. So little contact with reality. :(
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,753
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
KG... It is a no brainier.
Try this.
https://www.amazon.com/LIEBMAYA-Wir...ds=liebmaya+wireless+winch+remote+control+kit
Have no history.
I installed one on my new windlass. It installed without incident... (@LeslieTroyer came down to the boat. He wired it into the boat in less than 5 minutes. Most of the time was crawling through the V Berth. First try out was in... switched wires - Good to go). The one remote is tiny. With two one can go overboard and still the other works. At the cost you can mess up and not be upset.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Really? In what reality do you find yourself, I wonder?:doh:
Lochner may be one of those guys who likes to stand on his rainy windswept foredeck at 0100, take charge of the anchor recovery and deliver the required epithets and gestures. Keeping it real like the old days. I respect that. In fact I have the wireless remote for my Lewmar, they are very easy to connect. But I never did so. Strange things can happen on the foredeck and that is about $1,500 worth of ground tackle down there. So I stand the watch.