Sail-drive will not engage, stopped suddenly

Jul 30, 2022
3
Bavaria cruiser Muskegon
Saildrive has 280 hours on it, model 130S-B cable engages shifter fine. There was no warning, it was working fine shifted into neutral and could not re engage it forward or reverse. Any input would be appreciated.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,048
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Get someone to look at the gear lever on the box while someone shifts from the helm.. push the gear lever on the gearbox towards forward and reverse by hand.. If the selector cable casing has come out of its holder clamp, it would not engage.. If you have a single lever control (combined gear and speed control) you could have had a failure in that unit. Good Luck.
Welcome to the forum!
 
May 7, 2012
1,522
Hunter e33 Maple Bay, BC
What are the symptoms of the sail drive not engaging?

The only thing I could suggest is what is listed under troubleshooting in the 130 Workshop Manual Page 90:

"5 The sailboat drive cannot be shifted
Cause: Gear shift arm wrongly installed.
Action: Adjust the gear shift arm.

Cause: Flexible coupling defective.
Action: Change the flexible coupling.

Cause: Gear shift arm loose.
Action: Check the gear shift arm and the tightening torque of the clamp screw.

Cause: Defective components as below.
Action: Check the cam on the gear shift mechanism, change if necessary.
Change the springs in the clutch package.
Change the friction disks.
Change the selector fork.
Adjust the gear shift mechanism"

Saildrive 130 Workshop Manual
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,712
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Start simple. Check the cable and clamps. If the clamp becomes disconnected from the transmission, it will not shift.

Check the connection between the cable and the transmission lever. If it pulls loose from the from the transmission, it will not shift.

Does the engine still rev up even though the transmission does not engage?

Check the transmission fluid.

Those are the cheap and easy checks and fixes.
 
Jul 30, 2022
3
Bavaria cruiser Muskegon
Thanks for the responses. Update, took a dive under the boat and no propeller? How we lost the prop while anchored is a mystery.
 
May 7, 2012
1,522
Hunter e33 Maple Bay, BC
Yup it happens. That was going to be my next question after you told me there is no th in both forward and reverse. "Did you check to see if your prop is still there?".
It happened to me 3 years ago in a very desolate location. But that is another story. If your prop, cone and fastener was supplied by Volvo-Penta say 6 years ago or more then you will find, they have redesigned the system so that you can properly torque the cone and fastener. The original design was ridiculous. They now also recommend and supply Loctite Red-Gel for the thread locker. My prop, cone and fastener had 250 hours on it since it had been reinstalled while on the hard yet managed to work itself off at very, very inconvenient time.
 
May 7, 2012
1,522
Hunter e33 Maple Bay, BC
Well that is odd. Don't rule out galvanic corrosion eroding the prop nut and then having the prop spin off or even corrode away.
There is no prop metalic nut as there is on a conventional shaft and strut system. A sail drive is very similar to the leg of an outboard but much more robust. On the sail drive shaft, there is a prop cone made of a composite material that screws on to the shaft and a stainless steel fastener that threads into the shaft.
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This is an image of the older version of the cone kit. The installation instructions had you use a special insert T2 (priced at $150 USD and unobtainable by me) on a suitable torque wrench block the prop with a piece of wood and torque to 125Nm. The fastener tightened into the shaft to 23Nm. The new design now has a nut on the end of the cone that you can get an everyday torque wrench onto and torque to 70Nm The instructions also tell you to put the transmission into reverse and to use a thread locker. The kit even comes with Loctite Red-Gel.
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This is an image of the newer version of the cone kit.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
12,712
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
There is no prop metalic nut as there is on a conventional shaft and strut system. A sail drive is very similar to the leg of an outboard but much more robust. On the sail drive shaft, there is a prop cone made of a composite material that screws on to the shaft and a stainless steel fastener that threads into the shaft.
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This is an image of the older version of the cone kit. The installation instructions had you use a special insert T2 (priced at $150 USD and unobtainable by me) on a suitable torque wrench block the prop with a piece of wood and torque to 125Nm. The fastener tightened into the shaft to 23Nm. The new design now has a nut on the end of the cone that you can get an everyday torque wrench onto and torque to 70Nm The instructions also tell you to put the transmission into reverse and to use a thread locker. The kit even comes with Loctite Red-Gel.
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This is an image of the newer version of the cone kit.

Thanks. Are all sail drives similar or is this specific to this brand?
 
Feb 26, 2011
1,440
Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
Thanks. Are all sail drives similar or is this specific to this brand?
Yanmar and Volvo use different attachment hardware. Also, if the prop that was lost was a folder or feathering prop, that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,712
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Yanmar and Volvo use different attachment hardware. Also, if the prop that was lost was a folder or feathering prop, that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.
I wonder if insurance will cover the loss or if the company will say it was lack of maintenance.
 
Feb 26, 2011
1,440
Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
I wonder if insurance will cover the loss or if the company will say it was lack of maintenance.
If it was just a standard Volvo fixed-blade prop, the insurance deductible is likely more than the replacement cost.