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Jul 22, 2011
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lancer 25 mission bay san diego
hi, i just got this boat and the water pump doesnt work so i am tracing wires and it seems the water pump is wired to an extra switch and the wires are not properly sealed so can i bypass this switch and connect to axillary switch on the panel or directly to battery? of the 3 wires the middle one is the pump does it go + or _ ? i hope this makes sense
 

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Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,279
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
Holy S**T Sorry, just couldn't help myself.
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
call a qualified boat electrician and have him check your boats whole electric system and what ever it cost it will be money well spent before your boat burns down or you spend hours trying to figure what some knuckle head did
 
Jul 22, 2011
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lancer 25 mission bay san diego
i didn't think it would be this hard to figure out. what a mess i made. too bad they didn't just put a hand pump instead of electric....i just want water to the sink.
debbie
 

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Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
I'd say you can bypass the switch in the picture and just take power from the panel switch. You do not want to wire directly to the battery as that would give you no way to turn the unit off. What happens when you spring a leak while away from the boat? It pumps all your water out of your tank then continues to run. That either drains the battery or if you have the charger on burns out the pump.
Clearly the PO was operating WAY BEYOND his skill level. The switch is a lighted one. The right (looking at the picture) terminal is the hot from the battery or main buss, the center goes to the load and the left terminal is the ground for the LED on the switch front. You need a ground to get the led to light up. The switch will work fine with out it BTW.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I don't like electric pumps on the water supply. Too easy to waste water.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
i didn't think it would be this hard to figure out. what a mess i made. too bad they didn't just put a hand pump instead of electric....i just want water to the sink.
debbie
I'll be in Pacific Beach next Saturday with no obligations until late afternoon. Would be happy to stop by and lend a hand.

Resume' as it pertains to your current dilemma:
Licensed electrical contractor for 32 years
Worked at 4 different sailboat plants prior to that (not Lancer though)
Built my own Westsail 'From a Bare Hull" as the book title says
Fully rewired my current Catalina 30.
 
Oct 2, 2006
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Jboat J24 commack



Best way to deal with that is make a pile as there will be stuff hacked all over and it will plague you for ever a NEW 250' roll of 14/2 wire is only 110 dollars from genuinedealz
 
Jun 26, 2011
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Bruce Roberts R50 Ipswich
Ted said:
Holy S**T Sorry, just couldn't help myself.
Ditto! You are kidding are you? If that is an example of the wiring in the boat I would be starting again.
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
I'll be in Pacific Beach next Saturday with no obligations until late afternoon. Would be happy to stop by and lend a hand.

Resume' as it pertains to your current dilemma:
Licensed electrical contractor for 32 years
Worked at 4 different sailboat plants prior to that (not Lancer though)
Built my own Westsail 'From a Bare Hull" as the book title says
Fully rewired my current Catalina 30.
Here's your answer......and way over qualified :)
 
May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
From what I see

You will be way ahead to do as previosly stated, and rip it all out and start over. The first time something happens in that mess, you won't even have a clue where to start. If you re do it all, you will know whats what and whats where.
 
Jul 22, 2011
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lancer 25 mission bay san diego
Thanks for all the input. After the day of messing with and tracing the wires and reading your input i decided you all right.....i'm going to start over and rewire it all. I'm guessing that the pump is faulty and thats why it didn't work. I would like to trade the electric faucet for a simple hand or foot pump. I think this is a small enough job that i should be able to do it myself. This is a great place to share frustration of boat repairs and i appreciate your inputs.
Debbie
 

JVB

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Jan 26, 2006
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Schock Wavelength 24 Lake Murray, SC
As you rewire or trace wiring, make a drawing and put tags on the wires. I like the 1/4" strips with one number, in the range of 1 to 45, repeated multiple times on each adhesive strip. The redundancy allows the number to be determined even if the strip is damaged. You wrap a same numbered strip around the wire at both ends. The drawing will be invaluable in the future. Color coded wires are helpful but not as good as unique wire IDs.
http://www.idealindustries.com/products/wire_management/wire_markers/wire_marker_booklets.jsp
 

MitchM

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Jan 20, 2005
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Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
if what you want is fresh water from a f w tank, you can buy a small foot operated pump $30 and install it in the cabin somewhere. input to the pump comes from the f w tank. output from the pump goes to hose feeding the sink. press your foot on the pump and you get h 2 0 out of the pump into your spigot. get a connector for the hose, to bypass the old electric f w pump. with the connector, connect the inlet hose that used to be on the electric f w pump inlet to the hose coming out of the old f w pump. then figure out where your footswitch pump should be conveniently located...mount the foot pump .and attach hoses' inlet and outlet to the new foot pump. unlikely that the foot pump will burn your boat down , compared to that &*()_ of ******E wiring job.
 
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