Replacing loose cleats

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Ben Lambert

I have a few docking horn cleats that are loose and I'm worried that they may come out under a load when my 1971 Cat 27 is docked. I'm sure I can tighten them up (haven't had a chance to really look at them), but in case I need to replace them, does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe just replacing the cleats with new ones will be sufficient, but what if I need to re-drill holes? I'm not (yet) familiar with epoxy and working with fiberglass - any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Ben Lambert
 
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Tim Dranttel

Tighten them!

I would think that as long as there has been no damage thus far that you could just tighten the bolts up and you would be good to go. This is a two person job unless you can get a pair of vice grips on the bolt down below and position them in such a way that when you torque the bolt from above the vice grips hit something to keep the nut from turning. Also to prevent latter problems with water damage you may want to consider removing the cleats all together so that you can bed them in 3M 5200 (permanent) or 4200 (if you ever want to remove it). This keeps water from leaking into the fiberglass core and causing lamination. Tim
 
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LaDonna Bubak - CatalinaOwners

Remove them

You probably won't have to replace them unless you want pretty new ones. But you should definitely remove them & rebed them, especially if they're loose. You don't any water leaking through there & creating problems with your deck. Here's my suggestion: Remove the cleats. Drill out each hole double-size. Tape the undersides of each hole and then fill with clear epoxy. (This is as good a time as any to get familiar with epoxy - West Systems has a nice little booklet that will help out a lot.) You'll use a syringe and keep squirting till it doesn't "wick" into the coring anymore and the hole stays filled. This is a good thing. Let that cure for a day or two the redrill the holes the right size, apply 3M 4200 liberally to the base of the cleat & bolt down. Tim's right that you will need a second set of hands for this job. If those cleats take a lot of strain, you might think of making backing plates for them - mine don't so I just used extremely oversized washers. Clean up the excess 4200 and you're pretty much done! One quick side note: If the coring that comes out as you drill is dark and wet...you really need to dry it out before injecting the epoxy. Tarping might help but you also might need to wait till summer for the big fix. If this is the case, remove the cleats, clean & rebed with 3M 4200 (NOT 5200) to stop any further leaks and then do the big fix as soon as the weather clears. LaDonna
 
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Bill Lucas

Tighten

If they're the original aluminium 5" cleats you will be hard pressed to find replacements with matching holes. The screws are hopelessly fused to the cleats with corrosion and will be impossible to remove without having a good machine shop drill out. Tried replacing the screws on my bow cleats, wailed on them both without any results, tried drilling them out using a press but drifted off center and trashed them. Ended up replacing with 6" 4 screw SS cleats from Catalina after filling, gelcoating and drilling new holes. In short, tighten the nuts. Good Luck, Bill
 
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