Great idea - thanks for the tip. My new foam had just arrrived and I am putting off the thought of fitting it back in the covers - not now.
Replacing foam in the cushions
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Just wondering here. I installed a laminate flooring in my house a while back. We bought rolls of a moisture barrier. Looks like closed cell foam, about 1/8" thick and 4 ft wide and on a roll.
Would it be good to stick that to the foam with something, then put my new foam in the covers?
Jim
Would it be good to stick that to the foam with something, then put my new foam in the covers?
Jim
I added foam to a previous boat cusion with the same issue - the original foam"4 inch" was too soft and my hip was on the plywood base by morning. I added 2 inch high density foam (from Sam's Club) when I had them reupholstered and it did the trick. Strangely, I laid it out on the garage floor first and there was a difference when the foam is under the old foam vs when it is on top of the old foam. When the new foam was on the bottom, under the old foam, the feel is softer but the combination of the foams works nicely - no plywood contact. Doesn't work as well when the high density foam is on top of the other foam - the feel is harder. This option is also less expensive than buying 4" high density foam. Hope that helps.
We haven't had any problem with moisture with the high density foam inside the boat, V-berth and cabin, so I don't see a need to do anything there myself. We have had the boat in the dry west and humid Florida with no problem.
We used the dry-fast in the cockpit,
Sum
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Sum, I tend to agree, but its not too humid during the fall/winter months. July/Aug/Sept are much much different... if my fan stops running for a week I have small black mold spots on the walls...
I'm in the cheap camp with powersailor. adding to the top of old foam.
Doe, Sum, what thickness did you guys get? 4"?
I'm in the cheap camp with powersailor. adding to the top of old foam.
Doe, Sum, what thickness did you guys get? 4"?
All of the foam we have used both the high density and the dry-fast has been 3 inches thick. It is very firm, but we like it a lot. They have some that is not so firm if that is what one wants.
The lux high quality ....
http://www.foamdistributing.com/products/lux-hq.html
....has a 14 year life expectancy and a 2.8 lb/cu. ft density and a 50 lb. compression rating. It is $122.00 no tax, with free delivery for a 3 inch X 82" X 76".
The lux regular quality...
http://www.foamdistributing.com/products/lux-r.html
...has a 7 year life expectancy and a 1.8 lb/cu. ft. density but still a 50 lb. compression ratting, so might feel the same and it is only $83.25 for a 3 inch X 82" X 76" sheet.
You might be able to get these as cheap as the 'cheap' local stuff that won't be near as good? I've bought foam before in some of the larger cities for the teardrop trailer and none of it was as good as the above foam and I think I even paid more years back. I think they are a good deal.
They also have cheaper, less dense, less firm sheets also...
http://www.foamdistributing.com/products/products.html
This is what we used on the cockpit cushions in 3 inch thickness...
http://www.foamdistributing.com/products/dryfast.html
... and really like it. It is about the same firmness as the high density above, doesn't seem that wet even when it gets wet and dries very quickly. Of course we have it covered in a material that really allows air to pass through, not vinyl.
You live there, so I'd go by your recommendation on the humidity, but I liked the interlocking blocks you posted over putting closed cell on the bottom where the cushion would still be flat on the surface with no air under it,
Sum
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Kestle......thanks....no, but my father-in-law does........I hay elped....:dance: I can nearly lose fingers using my table saw, but the thought of driving a sewing needle through them gives me the willies.Momma picked out the fabric (sunbrella), and I did what I was told. Bro-in-law has upholstery supply business for the foam. Bob does fine work. That is the dacron in the background.
.Momma picked out the fabric (sunbrella), and I did what I was told. Bro-in-law has upholstery supply business for the foam. Bob does fine work. That is the dacron in the background.
Kestle......thanks....no, but my father-in-law does........I hay elped....:dance: I can nearly lose fingers using my table saw, but the thought of driving a sewing needle through them gives me the willies
Those really look nice :dance:,
Sum
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I could certainly ask. He is retired for the most part. When he does work, it is mostly custom furniture that he builds for past clients. The only auto, boat, airplane interior work he has done since I have known him, was for me.....errrr daughter:Liar:. Let me see if I can get him to put his golf clubs down long enough before he heads to FL for the winter. I did get him out on Lake Michigan once.........
Update,
I received the 3" high quality Lux foam, cut it out and was all ready to stuff it into the old cushion covers. I laid down on the raw foam and it seemed too hard. (the admiral thought it was just fine!)
I ended up putting it under the old original cushions. I like it. It does take away 3" of headroom on the berth, but I can live with that. I'm 6'1" and 225 lbs. I always bottomed out before. Not now. It's pretty comfy!
I think it would work well for seat cushions by itself. That's coming down the pipe.
Jim
I received the 3" high quality Lux foam, cut it out and was all ready to stuff it into the old cushion covers. I laid down on the raw foam and it seemed too hard. (the admiral thought it was just fine!)
I ended up putting it under the old original cushions. I like it. It does take away 3" of headroom on the berth, but I can live with that. I'm 6'1" and 225 lbs. I always bottomed out before. Not now. It's pretty comfy!
I think it would work well for seat cushions by itself. That's coming down the pipe.
Jim
I was wondering if it would be too firm for you or not. One reason it is hard to recommend foam or mattresses to others is that we all have different tastes.
Ruth and I are lucky in that we like the same. We like the firm, but at first I thought it might be too firm also, but now we have the same stuff in the Mac, on our bed at home, in the teardrop trailer and Suburban, and will have it in the Endeavour also. So now except for staying in a Motel we sleep on the same mattress everywhere :dance:.
We are using it also for the cabin cushions, but for me with a bony butt I start to bottom out if I'm on it say all evening. Ruth likes it just fine. I'd like to add 1 inch of the dryfast under the 3 inch for the cabin cushions. I think that would take care of me and Ruth would still probably be happy. I'm going to try it for the cushion I sit on at the Nav. station in the Endeavour in the spring and if it works will probably do it for the cabin cushions in both boats as we get around to making new ones.
If someone doesn't like a real firm bed maybe consider the ...
http://www.foamdistributing.com/products/hd36-hq.html
HD36 High Quality from them. It has an IFD of 35 vs. 50, but is still really good stuff with a life expectancy of 12-18 years.
The other option for you Jim would to maybe just put a 1 inch soft topper on the 3 inches so you don't loose so much head room. We are going to gain a couple inches of headroom in the Endeavour by replacing what is there now with the 3 inch foam, so that will be good,
Sum
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I read all the specs on the stuff and the numbers don't really mean much to me. There's nothing like being able to test drive it before you buy!
That said, I just took a chance. I figured if they sell it for mattresses it couldn't be too hard.
I have travelled to other countries where the hotel beds were thin and hard and I get acclimated pretty quick. At most I'll only be out a few days, a week tops.
I'm getting anxious now. I'm ready to go. Dang weather!
Well I'll clean up the boat and pack tomorrow. Maybe I'll put in on Sunday and head for protected water to camp.
That said, I just took a chance. I figured if they sell it for mattresses it couldn't be too hard.
I have travelled to other countries where the hotel beds were thin and hard and I get acclimated pretty quick. At most I'll only be out a few days, a week tops.
I'm getting anxious now. I'm ready to go. Dang weather!
Well I'll clean up the boat and pack tomorrow. Maybe I'll put in on Sunday and head for protected water to camp.
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