Replacing Cockpit Drain Hose on O'Day 25 -- Help?

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DharmaBum

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Oday 25 Chicago, IL
I need to replace a leaky hose that runs from my cockpit drain fitting (the white plastic through-deck that's on the transom bulkhead in that little sump on the aft-most part of the cockpit where water collects) to the white through-deck fitting on the outside of the transom. I poked a big hole in it thinking I was clearing a clog. She's a 1979 O'Day 25.

It looks difficult, if not impossible, to reach it from either engine access hatch. Has anyone tried to crawl back there?

If it isn't possible (or I risk getting my butt stuck in an engine compartment for the winter), does anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking about cutting an access port into the bulkhead just above the cockpit fitting, but I'm not sure I'd be able to reach the hose and the clamps.

The boat's on her cradle for the winter, but I need to get this done before the snow starts flying and melting and water flows from the cockpit into the engine compartment. Anyone have any experience or ideas? Even a temporary fix that lasts until spring would help.

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Joe11688

Joe11688

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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
DharmaBum said:
I need to replace a leaky hose that runs from my cockpit drain fitting (the white plastic through-deck that's on the transom bulkhead in that little sump on the aft-most part of the cockpit where water collects) to the white through-deck fitting on the outside of the transom. I poked a big hole in it thinking I was clearing a clog. She's a 1979 O'Day 25.

It looks difficult, if not impossible, to reach it from either engine access hatch. Has anyone tried to crawl back there?

If it isn't possible (or I risk getting my butt stuck in an engine compartment for the winter), does anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking about cutting an access port into the bulkhead just above the cockpit fitting, but I'm not sure I'd be able to reach the hose and the clamps.

The boat's on her cradle for the winter, but I need to get this done before the snow starts flying and melting and water flows from the cockpit into the engine compartment. Anyone have any experience or ideas? Even a temporary fix that lasts until spring would help.

Thanks
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The Beckson Deck Plate in the center of the inside transom was the way to go for me. I got stuck in the lazarett opening and was lucky to work my way out. After that, I opted for the deck plate. I don't know what the configuration of your self bailing hose is, but my hose was a straight clear plastic reinforced hose with a bend in it and I had no luck in replacing it without putting a kink in the hose. What I did was to use a 90 degree nylon fitting with a short piece of hose for the top, and a long piece for the bottom of the fitting with four stainless steel hose clamps. This worked out great for me. The deck plate came in handy for removing my gudgeons and re-caulking them. It also enables me to feed my charging wire through and outlet hole to a terminal block mounted on a bulkhead just inside the opening of the lazarett hatch. The hose that I used for the self bailing is a clear plastic reinforced hose that is available in hardware stores. You can probably tighten two of the hose clamp to the elbow fitting before installing it, and possibly get at the clamp for the transom thru-hull fitting with a screwdriver from the deck plate opening. I used a piece of wood as a lever from the bilge sole, to push the hose at the top of the elbow into the bottom of the cockpit sole thru-hull fitting. The deck plate made the difference, though.
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Steve Morris

Steve Morris

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Jun 1, 2004
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Hunter 27 Cave Run Lake, Morehead,KY
I think that if you take out the small bulkhead at the aft end of the port quarter berth you will find that you can access this hose. It will still not be an easy job, but, I believe that it can be done. I'd try that before I cut a hole for a Beckson deck plate.
 
Shoaldrafter

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Dec 8, 2006
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Oday 26 Starr, SC
Steve Morris said:
I think that if you take out the small bulkhead at the aft end of the port quarter berth you will find that you can access this hose. It will still not be an easy job, but, I believe that it can be done. I'd try that before I cut a hole for a Beckson deck plate.
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Steve,

I have not been in a 25 with the motor. I have been in several without motors. I have seen one with a motor from the hatch in the cockpit (or at least that I could see motor from hatch).

I would suggest your physical size is the issue. The candidate to get back there would have to be a thin flexible guy. Once back there he would need someone to hand him tools.

First an appropriate knife to cut out old hose. Check if it has hose clamps. If yes then the nut driver to remove.

On the 26 the hose starts bending at cockpit thru hull and bends to transom thru hull. So you would need sufficient length of clear plastic tubing of correct diameter and sealant.

Run a power cord for good light. Should be doable from inside without cutting special hatch.

If you are too big, need to hire small guy to do and be done with it. I do not think that a major modification is needed unless you want to.

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RichBone

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Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
Poked a hole? My hose is very thick and I don't think I could poke a hole in it. You might of just pushed the hose off of the fitting. When I go to my boat tomorrow I'll see if I can get a picture of the hose.

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Shoaldrafter

Shoaldrafter

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Dec 8, 2006
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Oday 26 Starr, SC
Joe, try a different method ...

Joe,

That piping job seems to not fully drain? Could you shorten the cockpit drain thru hull?

You said that the hose kinked. I have seen 90 bends in that type hose. Did you try heating hose in boiling water and bending then cooling with bend in place?

Ed K
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Joe11688

Joe11688

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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Shoaldrafter said:
Joe,

That piping job seems to not fully drain? Could you shorten the cockpit drain thru hull?

You said that the hose kinked. I have seen 90 bends in that type hose. Did you try heating hose in boiling water and bending then cooling with bend in place?

Ed K
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Ahoy there, Ed K!
I think that you're viewing an optical illusion Ed. It drains great. I would have liked to have connected the top hose a little higher, but the threaded portion of the thru-hull fitting is excessivly longer than the smooth part of it where the hose connects. With the cockpit sole thru-hull fitting being so long, and the distance to the transom thru-hull fitting being so short, it's almost impossible to bend the hose to a 90 degree shape. I did try heating the hose with no luck whatsoever. I'd rather stick with this type of hose than use a rubber hose, though.
Years ago, I left my metal fuel tank in the fuel compartment of my boat over the winter like a dumbell, and in March, I stuck my head in the back of the cover and smelled gasoline fumes. When I discovered that my tank had rotted out and leaked gasoline, I took my garden hose and proceed to wash out the cockpit,---like a dumbell. I couldn't figure out why the water wasn't draining through the self bailing hose :confused: until I opened the lazarett hatch! :eek: You guessed it,-- the bilge was full of water! The gasoline ate the hose! Stinky stanky, icky poo! :cussing: That was the original O'Day hose that came with the boat.

Lessons learned: S&*+W those metal gas tanks, I'm using Poly for now on, and I'm never leaving it in the boat over the winter! :cussing:
Ahoy!
Joe
 
Joe11688

Joe11688

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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
That's a good size hose, Rich. It must empty out quick. There's a superfluous amount of threads on your thru-hull fitting, similar to mine. I could probably take mine out, cut it a little shorter, and grind the threads out and make it smooth to receive the hose, but I don't think it's worth the bother. It may create more problems than it's worth. As long as it works, that's all that matters. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
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