Portable Generator

Jul 7, 2010
35
Hunter 30T Grand Lake, OK
Excellent advise and info everyone. When I spend the night out I'm looking for a small cove where I am the only boat and one with no houses (out of the way places). I know it would be a good source if I by chance drained the house battery bank and needed to get going again. I doubt that I would run it all night as the temps drop after sunset. I guess my main questions was if it COULD be powerful enough. I'll dig further into the Amps /Voltage and Watts required for its use. Thanks for everyone especially the info about CO detectors.
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Jun 8, 2004
10,374
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Does anyone know how many generators are used by sailors and how many reported incidents to include death that the Honda generator has caused??
 

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Feb 5, 2004
7,089
Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
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how many generators are used by sailors
I guess not, that no one knows the exact number of generators used by sailors; I assume you mean portable generators not intended for use on boats. But I'm sure it's a large number.
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how many reported incidents to include death that the Honda generator has caused
I guess not, since the reports I've seen don't include information on the brand of the generator. But, there are lots of reports that report on deaths and injuries associated with portable generators, and the number of injuries and deaths related to fires and CO poisoning on boats associated with portable generators is non-zero.

Just don't be a statistic, are the words to the wise. Some people look both ways and jay walk; others cross at the green and not in between. I, personally, would never go to sleep with a gas generator running on the deck, or in the cockpit, or on the sugar-scoop transom.

By the way, it's not just CO that leads to deaths and injuries, it's fire when refueling. Many ignore this risk, at their peril, in my opinion.
 
Jun 8, 2004
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I am specifically talking about the 2000 series Honda only. I know of some my customers used it to include Jim Seamons/ Java on his 356 Hunter without incident. As for usage, that is the individuals choice which I did not get involved. I was wondering about statistics only
 
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Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
If we use as a gauge the small boats, both power and sail w/o installed generators, that come to Isthmus Cove at Two Harbors, Catalina, I suggest that it’s at least 30% of those. That’s about every third boat of those types that ever leave their slip overnight. Let’s say those types (i.e., size & overnight use away from slip) represent a generous 5% of all boats in So. Cal., probably half a million. So, 0.05 x 0.3 x 500,000 = approx 8,000 generators out there around here if assumptions are true:yikes:. Conservatively, take half that number to compare with reported fatalities. It’s still a minuscule fraction.

But going on, there have been times when we’ve been moored at the Cove where I could hear and see the red Hondas on boats all around me. Two Harbors has a noise policy where the generators must be shut down in the evening by, I believe, 8 pm, there are so many. Weekender power boats as small as 24 ft LOA show up with ‘em. Why I ask? To run a microwave, a latte machine, or to charge the battery? One fellow sailor next to us (Irwin 38) left his running for hours, although I don’t think intentionally, having left the boat to go ashore. Upon return he apologized saying they needed hot water for showering:what:. (There are showers ashore.) My friends forgive me, but I consider their widespread use as a menace to the enjoyment of being anchored out, or moored out, to others near the users. They are needed only to run A/C appliances, the functions of which can be supplied by alternative means with the principal exception being air conditioning.

You can get hot water using sun bags and the diesel, battery charging with solar & diesel, 12-volt refrigeration, 12-volt hair dryer, 12-volt TVs even. Learn to cook using the propane stove and grill, etc.
 
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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
My friends forgive me, but I consider their widespread use as a menace to the enjoyment of being anchored out, or moored out, to others near the users.
Amen to that!

(BTW, I was so pissed of last week, anchored in Tarpaulin Cove of Naushon Island, MA, a beautiful, tranquil, and mostly uninhabited spot off of Vineyard Sound, and there was a USCG boat moored there, too, running his generators all night (and day), of course, and sounding a 12 gong electronic fog signal every few minutes, ALL NIGHT!!! My wife and I got up at 3:00 a.m. and looked all over our boat, thinking it was a phone or tablet or something, and it wasn't until I went on deck that I realized it was them. Ugh!)
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Amen to that!

(BTW, I was so pissed of last week, anchored in Tarpaulin Cove of Naushon Island, MA, a beautiful, tranquil, and mostly uninhabited spot off of Vineyard Sound, and there was a USCG boat moored there, too, running his generators all night (and day), of course, and sounding a 12 gong electronic fog signal every few minutes, ALL NIGHT!!! My wife and I got up at 3:00 a.m. and looked all over our boat, thinking it was a phone or tablet or something, and it wasn't until I went on deck that I realized it was them. Ugh!)
Yeah. Those crewed working boats, such as USCG and even NPS that function 24hr/day, run machinery all the time. Deck and other lights on as well, all night. You have a better chance of staying away from them if anchored some distance from a mooring field, etc. They seem to prefer picking up a mooring over anchoring if one of the correct size is available. Last summer in the >50-ft-boat-length mooring field at Port San Luis, a govt survey vessel came in and took one a few hundred ft from us. Lights and noise all night long. Thankfully, they left early and did not return.
 
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Jan 4, 2006
7,150
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
My friends forgive me, but I consider their widespread use as a menace to the enjoyment of being anchored out, or moored out, to others near the users.
The damn things should be outlawed:cuss: because it seems that most people who have them are inconsiderate slobs. No consideration for others around them and will run the things at all hours of the day and night so that their kids can play games or wifey can dry her hair. I hear generators running when no one is on board and we need A/C in our Canadian waters like Eskimos need refrigerators.

If generator operators need all the comforts of home
THEN BLOODY WELL STAY HOME
and stop annoying the rest of us.

There, got that off my chest at least :mad:. Mind you, don't think it"ll help any :sosad:.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
This is similar to what has ruined site-camping for some of us. If you can't backpack into the wilderness at 8,000 or more feet; are restricted to sites accessible to vehicles, you'll frequently have to tolerate "camping" among generators running televisions outdoors and bright outdoor lights; those along with the other noise makers people bring, like dirt bikes, and as you say, video games. The difficult-to-reach places on the water are like backpacking at high altitude. Compared to Catalina Island, I've noticed very few portable generators in the northern Channel Islands; hardly any. First, fewer boats b/c no moorings and no services ashore. It's also significantly colder (usually by 10-deg F), rougher, and generally requires more skill to feel comfortable at overnight anchorage. Also, the folks don't seem to want them. The sheltered waters of the Salish Sea and those among the archipelagos on the mainland side above 50-deg latitude remove some of the challenge of usage. I imagine that the anchorages along the west coast of Vancouver Island would be mostly free of it; but who knows? There are so many of 'em out there.
 
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Jan 4, 2006
7,150
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
I imagine that the anchorages along the west coast of Vancouver Island would be mostly free of it; but who knows?
We do have the luxury of being able to forge far enough northwards to such places as the Broughton Archipelago where you are pretty much on your own. Inexperienced yahoos with generators are reluctant to venture into these areas due to the lack of civilization. The low lying fog often doesn't clear up until noon but then sunshine and quiet for the rest of the days and nights:

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Long haul to get there but well worth the trip.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
The damn things should be outlawed:cuss: because it seems that most people who have them are inconsiderate slobs.
Same with stereos. Be nice if boat units had an output wattage limitation. There is always the Honda 1000.
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
I have a Honda 1000, at 0700 on the lake it seems incredibly loud. It's a trouper, I used to use it on a smaller boat to run a 900 watt hot plate, 20 amp charger and a squirrel cage blower all at the same time. They are only rated at 900 watts continuous.

I should compare the sound levels between the 1000 and the 2200. I need to start them anyway.

It is amazing how far sound carries over water in the early morning hours.
 
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Jul 7, 2010
35
Hunter 30T Grand Lake, OK
I have a Honda 1000, at 0700 on the lake it seems incredibly loud. It's a trouper, I used to use it on a smaller boat to run a 900 watt hot plate, 20 amp charger and a squirrel cage blower all at the same time. They are only rated at 900 watts continuous.

I should compare the sound levels between the 1000 and the 2200. I need to start them anyway.

It is amazing how far sound carries over water in the early morning hours.
I would like to know the results of that test! SyconeDriver where about are you on Grand Lake? I'm at GLSC and hope to be there this weekend even though it looks to be near 100.
 

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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
So, I have a question. What's louder on the water, a Honda eu1000 or eu2000, or a 5HP Honda outboard?
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
I would like to know the results of that test! SyconeDriver where about are you on Grand Lake? I'm at GLSC and hope to be there this weekend even though it looks to be near 100.
Scotty's Cove
Ill be on the lake sometime this weeked.