We have a 2014 Hunter 50cc with a Panda generator. The generator works great when it's running; however, if the boat is in even slight wave action while at sea, it chokes out. Any ideas, suggestions?
Tim
Tim
Panda 12 mini generator
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Do any of the indicator lights come on when it decides to shut down? Many of these pandas have oil level sensors. If the oil is fine on the level, it may not be when rolling about.
Also, I would check all of the connections on all of the safety sensors.; there are many. My 6000 develops minuscule amounts of corrosion on the spade connectors to such things as water temp, oil pressures etc. and then acts up intermittently. Pull the connector off and re-seat a couple of times.
I love my panada....but it is a bit over engineered, which creates lots of failure points.
Good luck.
Also, I would check all of the connections on all of the safety sensors.; there are many. My 6000 develops minuscule amounts of corrosion on the spade connectors to such things as water temp, oil pressures etc. and then acts up intermittently. Pull the connector off and re-seat a couple of times.
I love my panada....but it is a bit over engineered, which creates lots of failure points.
Good luck.
I know what it is
The 12 mini that Hunter uses has an interface for the Fireboy extinguisher system.
If the fire extinguisher in the engine compartment activates, then a contact on the extinguiser signals the Fireboy interface box.
On the Fireboy interface box, there are 2 sets of contacts
1 set shuts down the engine
The other set shuts down the generator.
The problem is that the generator relies on the NC (normally closed) contact on a small 30 Amp (black box) relay.
In other words, when the relay coil energizes from the Fireboy, it opens the NC relay contact.
Unfortunately, these little black box power relays have power rated contacts, which means they aren't suited well for solid state interrupt signals, which is what is coming from the panda controller.
So, here is how you are going to verify what am telling you is what's causing your problem
You will need to locate the power relay which has 2 purple /white wires, and 2 small guage red wires.
Disconnect the 2 small red wires from the relay, and connect them together .
Note, these are all on slip-on 1/4" female disconnects, so just make a short male to make 1/4" disconnect jumper, and plug both red wires to it.
I'm pretty confident this will isolate the issue.
If this is it, post here, and I'll give you a work around to solve it, while maintaining the Fireboy interlock
Ok, this is a little complicated, but I'm sure this is your problem.Thank you for the response, good info.
The 12 mini that Hunter uses has an interface for the Fireboy extinguisher system.
If the fire extinguisher in the engine compartment activates, then a contact on the extinguiser signals the Fireboy interface box.
On the Fireboy interface box, there are 2 sets of contacts
1 set shuts down the engine
The other set shuts down the generator.
The problem is that the generator relies on the NC (normally closed) contact on a small 30 Amp (black box) relay.
In other words, when the relay coil energizes from the Fireboy, it opens the NC relay contact.
Unfortunately, these little black box power relays have power rated contacts, which means they aren't suited well for solid state interrupt signals, which is what is coming from the panda controller.
So, here is how you are going to verify what am telling you is what's causing your problem
You will need to locate the power relay which has 2 purple /white wires, and 2 small guage red wires.
Disconnect the 2 small red wires from the relay, and connect them together .
Note, these are all on slip-on 1/4" female disconnects, so just make a short male to make 1/4" disconnect jumper, and plug both red wires to it.
I'm pretty confident this will isolate the issue.
If this is it, post here, and I'll give you a work around to solve it, while maintaining the Fireboy interlock
Adding to this
The black box relay was a modification
Originally, hunter ran the FP right to the Fireboy relay contacts.
Problem was the wiring resistance was way too high, so the had the fireboy control a relay which sits near the FP.
On a relay, the NO contacts will always give you a more reliable set of contacts.
The NC rely on the armature spring pressure, where as the NO are driven hard by the solenoid.
Ok, this is a little complicated, but I'm sure this is your problem.
The 12 mini that Hunter uses has an interface for the Fireboy extinguisher system.
If the fire extinguisher in the engine compartment activates, then a contact on the extinguiser signals the Fireboy interface box.
On the Fireboy interface box, there are 2 sets of contacts
1 set shuts down the engine
The other set shuts down the generator.
The problem is that the generator relies on the NC (normally closed) contact on a small 30 Amp (black box) relay.
In other words, when the relay coil energizes from the Fireboy, it opens the NC relay contact.
Unfortunately, these little black box power relays have power rated contacts, which means they aren't suited well for solid state interrupt signals, which is what is coming from the panda controller.
So, here is how you are going to verify what am telling you is what's causing your problem
You will need to locate the power relay which has 2 purple /white wires, and 2 small guage red wires.
Disconnect the 2 small red wires from the relay, and connect them together .
Note, these are all on slip-on 1/4" female disconnects, so just make a short male to make 1/4" disconnect jumper, and plug both red wires to it.
I'm pretty confident this will isolate the issue.
If this is it, post here, and I'll give you a work around to solve it, while maintaining the Fireboy interlock
The black box relay was a modification
Originally, hunter ran the FP right to the Fireboy relay contacts.
Problem was the wiring resistance was way too high, so the had the fireboy control a relay which sits near the FP.
On a relay, the NO contacts will always give you a more reliable set of contacts.
The NC rely on the armature spring pressure, where as the NO are driven hard by the solenoid.