I have been looking at 23 Odays for a while hoping to make a purchase in the next couple of years. I have heard great things about the Oday 23 as a starter boat. Lately in the want-ads I have seen 2 to 3 Oday 23s for less than $2500. They are all pop-ups. This seems like a lot of boat for the price. I do understand that condition will determine a price as well as age. These boats are all '70s boats. My question is this: is there something less desirable about the pop-up 23s that would lower a price or would it stand to reason that these boats are cheaper due to age and condition? Thank you in advance. Patrick Hooper
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Jerry Zyren
Recent Owner of 23 O'day
Patrick.... I recently(within the last couple of weeks)purchased a 1972 23'Pop-up. I am very new to sailing....everyone I asked said that I could not go wrong with this boat. I have only been out on it a couple of times and love it. The boat came with a 6HP Johnson, Mainsail, Jib, 150 Genoa Jib, and Spinnaker. The boat was always stored indoors in the winter and is very clean. There is no trailer but it did come with the cradle. I purchased everything for $1750. Hope this helps... Jerry Zyren jzyren@ameritech.net
Patrick.... I recently(within the last couple of weeks)purchased a 1972 23'Pop-up. I am very new to sailing....everyone I asked said that I could not go wrong with this boat. I have only been out on it a couple of times and love it. The boat came with a 6HP Johnson, Mainsail, Jib, 150 Genoa Jib, and Spinnaker. The boat was always stored indoors in the winter and is very clean. There is no trailer but it did come with the cradle. I purchased everything for $1750. Hope this helps... Jerry Zyren jzyren@ameritech.net
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Oday 23
That price seems just about right. i just picked up a 72 for 1500 with a dual axle traier. i was offered just the boat for $600 which is a steal. i have been looking at these boats for a year and this was def the best deal. 2 mains, geni, jib, stern/bow pulpits, life lines/ stanchons, rebuilt cushions, no motor. cant wait to get it in the water. if your in ri ill meet you for a classic oday sail someday, who knows sail the bay chris
That price seems just about right. i just picked up a 72 for 1500 with a dual axle traier. i was offered just the boat for $600 which is a steal. i have been looking at these boats for a year and this was def the best deal. 2 mains, geni, jib, stern/bow pulpits, life lines/ stanchons, rebuilt cushions, no motor. cant wait to get it in the water. if your in ri ill meet you for a classic oday sail someday, who knows sail the bay chris
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Deb
'71 Oday 23 Pop-up
We bought a 1971 Pop-up from our neighbor. We had no clue about Odays, having leased newer and much larger Hunters. So the opportunity for a sailboat with trailer for $1500.00 was not one to pass. Having set out for a couple of years, she was pretty dirty. When we took stock of all that came with her, we were like kids opening presents at Christmas. When we realized what we had, I got on the Internet and found this site and some others to compare prices. We could have sailed her this season, but decided to rehab first, which is taking longer than we anticipated, but we are having fun. Here's a list of extras that came with the deal- Single axle trailer 6 HP motor vinyl/screen covers that snap on the top when raised in very good-excellent condition 3 original sails and bags in good condition Main sail cover Mast, boom and rigging in good condition swim ladder portapotty All cushions but I have chosen to replace due to mold and tears fenders anchors lines and bags compass marine battery bosun's chair life jackets and a few other odds and ends The pulpit, stanchions and life lines are in good condition. The plexiglass portlites were stress cracked badly and the frames had been caulked too many times over. The sink doesn't work. But overall codition is very good, considering the age. CDEBGO23@hotmail.com
We bought a 1971 Pop-up from our neighbor. We had no clue about Odays, having leased newer and much larger Hunters. So the opportunity for a sailboat with trailer for $1500.00 was not one to pass. Having set out for a couple of years, she was pretty dirty. When we took stock of all that came with her, we were like kids opening presents at Christmas. When we realized what we had, I got on the Internet and found this site and some others to compare prices. We could have sailed her this season, but decided to rehab first, which is taking longer than we anticipated, but we are having fun. Here's a list of extras that came with the deal- Single axle trailer 6 HP motor vinyl/screen covers that snap on the top when raised in very good-excellent condition 3 original sails and bags in good condition Main sail cover Mast, boom and rigging in good condition swim ladder portapotty All cushions but I have chosen to replace due to mold and tears fenders anchors lines and bags compass marine battery bosun's chair life jackets and a few other odds and ends The pulpit, stanchions and life lines are in good condition. The plexiglass portlites were stress cracked badly and the frames had been caulked too many times over. The sink doesn't work. But overall codition is very good, considering the age. CDEBGO23@hotmail.com
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Chass
Love mine!
I have a 23 popop, which I have fallen in love with. I am down this year due to the remodeling I am doing to it, along with some repairs. I gave 1000$ for mine, included tandem trailer, 9.9 evinrude, main and 135 genny. When it gets to anchor time, waahooo, lots of headroom below and very breezy. When it is time to drag up anchor, I will admit she is a tender sailor, but with practice, she'll get about 12" from the rail. I did have a more experienced sailor with me one day and in 6 hours he taught me more about sail trim than my last 2 years of practice, shoot we picked up an additional 2-3 knots that I didn't know I could get. I'll be taking pictures of the work in progress, so if any of you are interested let me know. Deb, if you have any pics of your screens and canvas I sure would be grateful to take a peek. I can be reached at CapnChuck@hotmail.com. My recommendation for the poptop? Go for it! Chass
I have a 23 popop, which I have fallen in love with. I am down this year due to the remodeling I am doing to it, along with some repairs. I gave 1000$ for mine, included tandem trailer, 9.9 evinrude, main and 135 genny. When it gets to anchor time, waahooo, lots of headroom below and very breezy. When it is time to drag up anchor, I will admit she is a tender sailor, but with practice, she'll get about 12" from the rail. I did have a more experienced sailor with me one day and in 6 hours he taught me more about sail trim than my last 2 years of practice, shoot we picked up an additional 2-3 knots that I didn't know I could get. I'll be taking pictures of the work in progress, so if any of you are interested let me know. Deb, if you have any pics of your screens and canvas I sure would be grateful to take a peek. I can be reached at CapnChuck@hotmail.com. My recommendation for the poptop? Go for it! Chass
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Chuck
Chuck, tried to e-mail you at the hotmail address and it was rejected as non-existent. Try again? Deb
Chuck, tried to e-mail you at the hotmail address and it was rejected as non-existent. Try again? Deb
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Mark R.
1972 Pop-top
I too bought a 1972 O'day 23' pop-top. I am going to spend the time doing some rehab to get the boat to my liking. I got her for $1,200 with a cradle as well. Sure wish I had a trailer too, but that means getting a bigger vehicle to tow (if it's not one thing- it's another right?) I've removed the interior snap-on canvas for cleaning. I'm actually debating whether or not to try out the pop-top once next season rolls around. Anyone run into any leaking problems with it and will it be safe to mount navigation/electronics on the aft end of the pop-top facing the cockpit? Will that be OK??? Anyways, it's a good buy and I hope you gain alot of fun out of it! I can't wait to get mine in the water next year. Mark
I too bought a 1972 O'day 23' pop-top. I am going to spend the time doing some rehab to get the boat to my liking. I got her for $1,200 with a cradle as well. Sure wish I had a trailer too, but that means getting a bigger vehicle to tow (if it's not one thing- it's another right?) I've removed the interior snap-on canvas for cleaning. I'm actually debating whether or not to try out the pop-top once next season rolls around. Anyone run into any leaking problems with it and will it be safe to mount navigation/electronics on the aft end of the pop-top facing the cockpit? Will that be OK??? Anyways, it's a good buy and I hope you gain alot of fun out of it! I can't wait to get mine in the water next year. Mark
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Chass
Poptop
Deb, Sorry, It is CapnChuck@msn.com! Yes, I have leaks as well, but hoping to correct that when I reovate everything. Has anyone replaced the port lights on theirs? I would like to go to tinted this time around!
Deb, Sorry, It is CapnChuck@msn.com! Yes, I have leaks as well, but hoping to correct that when I reovate everything. Has anyone replaced the port lights on theirs? I would like to go to tinted this time around!
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Deb
For Mark and Chuck
>>"will it be safe to mount navigation/electronics on the aft end of the pop-top facing the cockpit? Will that be OK???"<< Thats where the compass on ours was mounted, with an electrical wire for the light, and we will also mount the depth sounder there. We should be in the water some time next month and I'll let you know how it works. Chuck, our portlites were so stress-cracked that you couldn't see out of them. Also, the layers and layers of caulk were downright ugly. Even after I scraped my fingers to the bone removing caulk, we decided to remove and replace the portlites. The 4 new custom-cut plexiglass pieces cost $75.00. We tinted them with auto sheets, even though the instructions say not to use on plexiglass - they are downright beautiful. But when my husband went to put them back into the gaskets, we ran into a problem with the gaskets being too hard and brittle. We were unable to find anything comparable, so he bought some clear vinyl tubing, 3/8" X 1/4" in the plumbing dept. at Menards ($7). He oh so carefully slit the tubing with a straight edge razor blade, fitted the new portlites into it, and then into the frames. The fit seems pretty good, and we will put them back into port openings today, and caulk with clear. We'll test for leaks and I'll let you know in the next few days how it turned out. (I think hubby said a pop-rivet gun cost around $20.) Out of desperation to remove the last of the caulk remaining on the aluminum portlite frames, I boiled them. And it worked. Deb
>>"will it be safe to mount navigation/electronics on the aft end of the pop-top facing the cockpit? Will that be OK???"<< Thats where the compass on ours was mounted, with an electrical wire for the light, and we will also mount the depth sounder there. We should be in the water some time next month and I'll let you know how it works. Chuck, our portlites were so stress-cracked that you couldn't see out of them. Also, the layers and layers of caulk were downright ugly. Even after I scraped my fingers to the bone removing caulk, we decided to remove and replace the portlites. The 4 new custom-cut plexiglass pieces cost $75.00. We tinted them with auto sheets, even though the instructions say not to use on plexiglass - they are downright beautiful. But when my husband went to put them back into the gaskets, we ran into a problem with the gaskets being too hard and brittle. We were unable to find anything comparable, so he bought some clear vinyl tubing, 3/8" X 1/4" in the plumbing dept. at Menards ($7). He oh so carefully slit the tubing with a straight edge razor blade, fitted the new portlites into it, and then into the frames. The fit seems pretty good, and we will put them back into port openings today, and caulk with clear. We'll test for leaks and I'll let you know in the next few days how it turned out. (I think hubby said a pop-rivet gun cost around $20.) Out of desperation to remove the last of the caulk remaining on the aluminum portlite frames, I boiled them. And it worked. Deb
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Chuck
Question for you guys
Have any of you sailed with the top up? Is that a no no or are there things I'm not seeing. It looks as if it would work with the clearances, however I would be worried about the additional area exposed to windage.
Have any of you sailed with the top up? Is that a no no or are there things I'm not seeing. It looks as if it would work with the clearances, however I would be worried about the additional area exposed to windage.
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Deb
Top up and Portlite blues
We haven't sailed out boat yet, but I imagine not only the wind but water might get into the cabin sailing with the top up. We put the portlights back on this morning and discovered WHY they were so full of caulk inside and out. I don't know why my husband didn't see this when he took them out. The port openings in the fiberglass on 2 of the 4 are larger on one end than the ports and the frames! One on each side! We can't tell, of course, if the boat was manufactured this way, or if for whatever reason, one of the former owners cut them. You can't see it from the outside but from the inside, there is at least a 1/4"+ gap. We placed a bead of white marine caulk around the frame, and placed it in the opening. He reveted them in while I stood inside the cabin, putting on aluminum washers to the rivets and wiping off the oozing caulk. We are waiting for it to dry and unless anyone can sugest something to use to close the gap, I suppose we will be filling it with more caulk before putting the final seal of clear caulk. Bummer.
We haven't sailed out boat yet, but I imagine not only the wind but water might get into the cabin sailing with the top up. We put the portlights back on this morning and discovered WHY they were so full of caulk inside and out. I don't know why my husband didn't see this when he took them out. The port openings in the fiberglass on 2 of the 4 are larger on one end than the ports and the frames! One on each side! We can't tell, of course, if the boat was manufactured this way, or if for whatever reason, one of the former owners cut them. You can't see it from the outside but from the inside, there is at least a 1/4"+ gap. We placed a bead of white marine caulk around the frame, and placed it in the opening. He reveted them in while I stood inside the cabin, putting on aluminum washers to the rivets and wiping off the oozing caulk. We are waiting for it to dry and unless anyone can sugest something to use to close the gap, I suppose we will be filling it with more caulk before putting the final seal of clear caulk. Bummer.
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Mark R.
Response to Deb
Hi , Thanks for your message. Yeah, I haven't put my boat into the water (won't be until next season due to Great Lakes sailing season coming to a close). I haven't gotten to the portlites, but I'm sure to keep your messages in mind. Also, I appreciate your comments regarding mounting electronics onto the pop-top itself. Hey, I've seen where the pop-top crank is at (overhead of V-berth. Now, although I haven't raised mine yet, is there a switch or something to lock it in place then when time to lower, reversing the crank to lower it? I just am curious thanks I look forward to hearing more of your results with your boat too! Mark
Hi , Thanks for your message. Yeah, I haven't put my boat into the water (won't be until next season due to Great Lakes sailing season coming to a close). I haven't gotten to the portlites, but I'm sure to keep your messages in mind. Also, I appreciate your comments regarding mounting electronics onto the pop-top itself. Hey, I've seen where the pop-top crank is at (overhead of V-berth. Now, although I haven't raised mine yet, is there a switch or something to lock it in place then when time to lower, reversing the crank to lower it? I just am curious thanks I look forward to hearing more of your results with your boat too! Mark
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Mark
Ooops! communication breakdown about mounting the electronics. I thought you meant on the hull to the right of the hatchway. If you mount to the pop top itself, you'll have to leave enough wire to allow for when the top is raised. I don't see why you couldn't other than the wire being out there all the time. The cranking mechanism for the pop top doesn't lock when you raise the top. Bear with me on terminology - there are 4 'posts' that the top slides up and down. Attached to each of the posts with a line are stainless steel "pins" that you put in when the top is as high as it will go. We've only had the pins in once while working in the cabin. Other times, we just raise it up as the boat is pretty stable on the trailer and the top has stayed up. It's probably a diferent story when rocking on water. If you need to see a photo of the pins, or anything else, let me know. I should be able to take some digital photos this week. Our home port will be Kentucky Lake, so we should be able to sail through November, and hopefully as early as March. The last trip the former owner took was on Lake Michigan for 10 days. Maybe by 2004 we'll be ready to take her up there! Deb
Ooops! communication breakdown about mounting the electronics. I thought you meant on the hull to the right of the hatchway. If you mount to the pop top itself, you'll have to leave enough wire to allow for when the top is raised. I don't see why you couldn't other than the wire being out there all the time. The cranking mechanism for the pop top doesn't lock when you raise the top. Bear with me on terminology - there are 4 'posts' that the top slides up and down. Attached to each of the posts with a line are stainless steel "pins" that you put in when the top is as high as it will go. We've only had the pins in once while working in the cabin. Other times, we just raise it up as the boat is pretty stable on the trailer and the top has stayed up. It's probably a diferent story when rocking on water. If you need to see a photo of the pins, or anything else, let me know. I should be able to take some digital photos this week. Our home port will be Kentucky Lake, so we should be able to sail through November, and hopefully as early as March. The last trip the former owner took was on Lake Michigan for 10 days. Maybe by 2004 we'll be ready to take her up there! Deb
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Dave
Enjoy your O'Day 23
O'Days are solid boats and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. One comment on Kentucky Lake. A friend of mine pointed out that the muddy water of the lake tended to cause a brown "tea-like" staining of his hull that he couldn't get completely off. We spent a week on Kentucky Lake this summer, and it did stain my O'Day 222 a bit. However, anticipating the problem, I had put an extra coat of wax on the boat before putting it in, and I washed the boat at the waterline immediately after pulling the boat and experienced no permanent staining. Note that I do have bottom paint on the boat so I don't worry about the bottom. You might want to check with the locals about how they handle it, or post a specific question about this on this site. I would say however that the lake was a great sailing lake with lots of interesting coves to explore on the Land Between the Lakes side. I highly recommend it as a sailing destination. Concerning Lake Michigan, it is a great (no pun intended) lake for sailing. The western shore has ports about every 20-25 miles, so harbor hopping is a lot of fun. Again, congratulations on your new boat, and welcome to the O'Day family. You'll find this site quite helpful. I know I do.
O'Days are solid boats and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. One comment on Kentucky Lake. A friend of mine pointed out that the muddy water of the lake tended to cause a brown "tea-like" staining of his hull that he couldn't get completely off. We spent a week on Kentucky Lake this summer, and it did stain my O'Day 222 a bit. However, anticipating the problem, I had put an extra coat of wax on the boat before putting it in, and I washed the boat at the waterline immediately after pulling the boat and experienced no permanent staining. Note that I do have bottom paint on the boat so I don't worry about the bottom. You might want to check with the locals about how they handle it, or post a specific question about this on this site. I would say however that the lake was a great sailing lake with lots of interesting coves to explore on the Land Between the Lakes side. I highly recommend it as a sailing destination. Concerning Lake Michigan, it is a great (no pun intended) lake for sailing. The western shore has ports about every 20-25 miles, so harbor hopping is a lot of fun. Again, congratulations on your new boat, and welcome to the O'Day family. You'll find this site quite helpful. I know I do.
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Chass
Mark and Deb
I have raised my top quite a bit and the 4 posts with pins is correct Deb, however I always lower mine onto the pins after the raising to relieve some of the weight off the cable it self. I have heard of some of the cables breaking and it can be a bear to replace them. Just remeber there is alot of pressure on those cables. Deb, mine works just great out in the lake when raised. And is very stable, which is why I asked earlier about sailing with it raised. CapnChuck@msn.com
I have raised my top quite a bit and the 4 posts with pins is correct Deb, however I always lower mine onto the pins after the raising to relieve some of the weight off the cable it self. I have heard of some of the cables breaking and it can be a bear to replace them. Just remeber there is alot of pressure on those cables. Deb, mine works just great out in the lake when raised. And is very stable, which is why I asked earlier about sailing with it raised. CapnChuck@msn.com
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Deb
PopTop covers photos
Chuck, thanks for the tip about the pins. I definitely can see where replacing those cables would be a pain. You'll find I've copied photos of the covers on this webpage: http://fefun.topcities.com/Boatstuff.html Dave, thanks for mentioning your experience at Kentucky Lake. We've been sailing down there since '90 and my husband way before that. We didn't go last year because Lighthouse Landing stopped leasing boats by the week and have gone straight daysailing. Anyway, I never noticed the water to be that muddy. The only reason I can think is that we always went down there in the off season (cheaper and less people.) Perhaps the waters were churned up because it was the busy season? But now that we have our own boat, we'll probably be down there as much as possible since the boat will be moored at Lighthouse Landing, Pier One til September, 2003. We will be taking her down some time in September, so if you're over that way, be sure and stop by to say hey. Deb
Chuck, thanks for the tip about the pins. I definitely can see where replacing those cables would be a pain. You'll find I've copied photos of the covers on this webpage: http://fefun.topcities.com/Boatstuff.html Dave, thanks for mentioning your experience at Kentucky Lake. We've been sailing down there since '90 and my husband way before that. We didn't go last year because Lighthouse Landing stopped leasing boats by the week and have gone straight daysailing. Anyway, I never noticed the water to be that muddy. The only reason I can think is that we always went down there in the off season (cheaper and less people.) Perhaps the waters were churned up because it was the busy season? But now that we have our own boat, we'll probably be down there as much as possible since the boat will be moored at Lighthouse Landing, Pier One til September, 2003. We will be taking her down some time in September, so if you're over that way, be sure and stop by to say hey. Deb
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