Good, new winch design http://greenfieldproducts.com/accessories/skywinch
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Cute...... a little baby windlass... my guess is the buffoons trying to operate the normal winch would have trouble adapting to the new product's technology just as well.Good, new winch design http://greenfieldproducts.com/accessories/skywinch
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if it will pull an 1800lb boat onto the trailer, it will definitely haul the anchor.Thanks for posting that. I have an idea probably a bad one . I'm wondering if I could use that to lift the anchor on the Endeavour. I'm not suggesting pulling the boat to the anchor or getting the anchor free of the bottom, but just lifting the last 20 feet of chain and the anchor itself.
I've been considering doing this with different means like using the winches back in the cockpit, but if this had the capacity to lift a 35 lb. anchor and say 15 feet of 5/16th chain (usually we are in less than 8 feet of water in Florida) it sure would save my back some unless cranking that handle was actually more work.
I don't have much problem getting the boat to the anchor with Ruth's help on the tiller and motor and can work the anchor free. It is just getting it up and I'm thinking about adding a 45 lb. anchor to use when needed.
Sum
It is only $60.00 so not a lot to loose, but would have to mount it someway.if it will pull an 1800lb boat onto the trailer, it will definitely haul the anchor.
its easy to haul in the run of scope by hand, but when it comes to breaking out the anchor and hoisting it with it full of mud, that little winch would be a real back saver.
I think it would serve as an anchor cranker better than it would as a trailer winch....
the cost of it is probably outrageous, but I think it could serve double duty on the foredeck as an anchor hoist and a winch for the mast raising system.
Sum, I like your idea and agree that it would probably work better as an anchor retriever. However, mounting it might become an issue since the handle actually goes below the mechanism. That causes a problem with mounting it on the deck and requires some sort of support to get it above and clear the handle. When you do that you begin to introduce forces on the deck that are beyond just the weight of the anchor and mud. Good luck with it and I would be interested in seeing what methods you suggest for mounting it.It is only $60.00 so not a lot to loose, but would have to mount it someway.
The boat might weigh 1800 lbs. but of course you aren't really pulling that much, but I think you are right about the anchor. You are also right about the mud which can be quite heavy. I'll sometimes just bring the anchor to near the surface and cleat it off then have Ruth start motoring until the mud comes off. It also gets heavier once it is out of the water, but would think even the 45 lb. anchor would be less than 55 with just the anchor and say 8 feet of 5/16 chain.
Depending on how it was mounted I might be able to extend the handle and make it a little longer. I could try it here at home before going back to the boat. The nice thing is how easy the line goes on and off without having to thread it and if I'm seeing it right it would also lock the line at any point until it was released or taken in more.
I'll call and see what they say,
Sum
I've been wondering if it will work on its side? I'm thinking of a couple brackets possibly on the ...Sum, I like your idea and agree that it would probably work better as an anchor retriever. However, mounting it might become an issue since the handle actually goes below the mechanism. That causes a problem with mounting it on the deck and requires some sort of support to get it above and clear the handle. When you do that you begin to introduce forces on the deck that are beyond just the weight of the anchor and mud. Good luck with it and I would be interested in seeing what methods you suggest for mounting it.
Nodak7
Sum,I've been wondering if it will work on its side? I'm thinking of a couple brackets possibly on the ...
....back two uprights of the pulpit down low, opposite to where the Honda generator is shown above. The winch would then be on a cross-member that ran side to side that would slide into the mounts on the pulpit uprights. The winch/cross-member would be removed and stored below when not in use.
I'm wondering if there is enough mechanical advantage with the winch to still make it easier than pulling the anchor/chain up by hand as I have done. I'm 69, in good shape, but still have had 3 hernia operations so am looking for something to be a go between lifting it by hand and spending a $1000+ to install a winch and the time that would take. If the boat was at home things would be easier .
I'm also going to look into ...
Thanks for the input and I'll know more after I can talk to them,
Sum
I've considered doing the same, however, I am concerned about dragging the chain across the deck.Sum,
I feel your pain! I am 66 and the thought of pulling up even a small anchor does not appeal to me (ours is 44#). Anyway my suggestion to you is to run your anchor rode back to your deck winch. Use the deck winch to raise it then when it is up you can handle it from the deck or swing it back onto the deck. You may need to set up a snatch block on the rode to make it align properly to the winch but that should not be an issue. Snatch blocks are much cheaper than a windlass or new winch.
Nodak
Yep, I thought about that solution and was going to give it a try if nothing else is feasible. The good part about that plan is that Ruth gets to do all the work the bad part is I like to keep her pretty much free to be at the helm as sometimes immediate help there is really good.Sum,
I feel your pain! I am 66 and the thought of pulling up even a small anchor does not appeal to me (ours is 44#). Anyway my suggestion to you is to run your anchor rode back to your deck winch. Use the deck winch to raise it then when it is up you can handle it from the deck or swing it back onto the deck. You may need to set up a snatch block on the rode to make it align properly to the winch but that should not be an issue. Snatch blocks are much cheaper than a windlass or new winch.
Nodak
I think where you live Frank that sooner or later you will find a deal on a used windlass and that would be the best solution for sure...but you will have to find a way to lock the chain while you change from the rode to the 1/2" anchor/chain rope. Even then it is going to reduce the weight by the weight of the anchor and 1/2 of the chain weight. It is still way better than hauling the whole enchilada up...
Yeah we have the headphones as well and I really like them. Saves a lot of yelling... LOLYep, I thought about that solution and was going to give it a try if nothing else is feasible. The good part about that plan is that Ruth gets to do all the work the bad part is I like to keep her pretty much free to be at the helm as sometimes immediate help there is really good.
We only anchored twice with the Endeavour and I was surprised that lifting the 35 lb Manson on it wasn't all that much harder than the 25 lb. Manson on the Mac, but I"m sure the 45 lb. Manson will be much more noticeable.
We anchor all of the time and did buy a set of those headphones to try from Cruising Solutions. We use hand signals well on the Mac, but the Endeavour is longer and it is harder for Ruth to see me,
Sum
Thanks for the links but those winches you guys are posting won't work on the Endeavour and the way the anchor lockers are laid out. I know of some that will, but for this year they just aren't in the budget and before we do spend the money on them we really need to get the boat out and see if we are keeping her.How much is your back worth, less than your new anchor? You've got all the power in the world... what if you hurt yourself, how is ruth gonna get that monster hook up out of the water? Merlinuxo has a good link.... just the wrong size for your boat... This is a better size and only $200 more to handle the 5/16 chain and the new anchor....
I think I'll try one out. Also I'm in the middle of converting a HF 12 volt winch to a possible winch for this application. It also would be stored below when not in use. I'll have more on both---the good, the bad and the ugly---when I get further along.I apologize for the delay in forwarding this information. We talked to the inventor of the SkyWinch and he indicated all the testing was to establish break strength, so we do not have specific data about straight line pull. However, Mr. Skyba believes there would be no issues with the 60 pounds and it would be easy to pull. He sees no reason for concern.