Need to re-seat the big front window on a Hunter 29.5

May 10, 2017
48
Beneteau Oceanis 31 Beaver Lake, Roger, AR.
DA12E27D-4F70-47E3-A9B8-D2A3D767BBC9.jpeg
I Need to re-seat the big front window on a Hunter 29.5. Just finished doing the front hatch, but this is simply seated with screws through the plexigraph. I could use any advice out there to include the correct adhesive / caulking material. I probably can’t afford a new window but I’d like to know if these can be bought. My current one has crazing on the outside. It’s about 1/16 inch deep from the outside.

Thanks for any advice or information.
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,376
-na -NA Anywhere USA
If I recall it is a Dow product used here and will ask those to be specific as to which one. If you can get a fishing string thru the crack you can cut the caulk by pulling back and forth. Remove old caulk. NVER USE ACETONE ON THE WONDOW MATERIAL but alcohol is ok. If you cannot find a crack carefully use a putty knif to cut caulk outside and pry gently for a long distance. If squeamish get someone who has done that. Once surface is cleaned, tape off window so excess caulk will not come in contact with the rest of the boat. Remove excess caulk and smooth. Let dry. Remove tape and do final clean up.
If still concerned doing this, let or hire a
professional do this
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Dow 795 is the material I have used to seat all my plexi.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,818
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Looks like big job and if want to replace down the road a friend
had windows leaking and just did not want to get into big job so I suggested Flex Seal and so he cleaned out as much old caulking and used masking tape and looks real good and no more leaks.
I would be worried damaging the window and I cover all my hatches and top windows on my H-36 with Sunbrella canvas covers
that snap on and can remove when not needed.
I also use Flex Seal on my RV roof works great and looks great and no dry caulking run off.
Nick
 
Aug 22, 2017
1,609
Hunter 26.5 West Palm Beach
Bent windows are not cheap. There are some custom fabrication plastic factories that can make them, but quality has been hit & miss in my experience. I got a price quote for replacement windows to go on my H212 from the kind folks who host this board. Their quote was on par with direct quotes that I got from fabricators. I have not yet replaced my windows. It is on my to-do list.

Dow 795 is the glazing compound that is most often used in those types of installations. Other high end sealants recommend that you must use mechanical fasteners in addition to the sealant.
 

Panera

.
Jan 18, 2014
60
Hunter 280 Portland, ME
I just did it on my 280, using the Dow 795. Not that hard, putty knife, patience and clean it up good. It took 2 tubes for my 280, sealed great.
 
May 10, 2017
48
Beneteau Oceanis 31 Beaver Lake, Roger, AR.
Looks like big job and if want to replace down the road a friend
had windows leaking and just did not want to get into big job so I suggested Flex Seal and so he cleaned out as much old caulking and used masking tape and looks real good and no more leaks.
I would be worried damaging the window and I cover all my hatches and top windows on my H-36 with Sunbrella canvas covers
that snap on and can remove when not needed.
I also use Flex Seal on my RV roof works great and looks great and no dry caulking run off.
Nick
This is VERY interesting to me. The leak on the right side of what I will call the windshield is very small and I know the area that it is coming from, but a leak none the same. I have to leave a trash bag and towel inside every time I leave the boat. Do you know if he used the Flex-steel caulk tube? Is it thick enough to not run down a 5 degree slope while it thickens / cures?

Is there anyone out there that has tried to patch rather than a full pull out clean and reinstall. If I were to do this I would remove and patch 12 inches either side of the leak.
 

Sailm8

.
Feb 21, 2008
1,750
Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
I replaced mine by purchasing it through this website cost was about $650. I am really sorry I did it. The plastic lens came flat not bent to shape nor were there and screw holes drilled. It was a fairly good fit but not perfect and required sanding the edges. I used Dow to seal it and 250 lbs of salt to weight it down while it set up. If I had to do it again, I would replace the window with two opening hatches for more ventilation and fewer leaks.
We just returned from 5 days sailing. We sleep in the aft berth and it takes a strong breeze to keep it coll. Extra openings would help.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Windows like this are usually screwed down at least until the adhesive dries. Then the screws are removed, and the holes filled with the adhesive. I imagine you could use a heat gun to bend it, but that can be risky, as plexi burns and boils easily. I have heat-formed plexi parts with the gun with plenty of success. You would need to do it off the boat.
 
May 10, 2017
48
Beneteau Oceanis 31 Beaver Lake, Roger, AR.
3B308DCE-AE33-4010-BCCC-405624C937C3.jpeg
So it’s interesting how I solve one thing with “all ya all’s” advice and then I run into another issue. Now it’s the rubber screw grommets that house the screw in the plexiglass. See the picture. Anybody know where I can get these?
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Don’t bother. Overdrill the holes, so the plexi can expand and contract without pressing against the screws and cracking the plexi. Those grommets will not do the work. You will be screwing directly through the adhesive. It will seal.
 
May 10, 2017
48
Beneteau Oceanis 31 Beaver Lake, Roger, AR.
There are a bunch of rather small reasons I’d like to find them but mostly I just like the engineering and thought process behind concept and execution.
 
May 10, 2017
48
Beneteau Oceanis 31 Beaver Lake, Roger, AR.
I replaced mine by purchasing it through this website cost was about $650. I am really sorry I did it. The plastic lens came flat not bent to shape nor were there and screw holes drilled. It was a fairly good fit but not perfect and required sanding the edges. I used Dow to seal it and 250 lbs of salt to weight it down while it set up. If I had to do it again, I would replace the window with two opening hatches for more ventilation and fewer leaks.
We just returned from 5 days sailing. We sleep in the aft berth and it takes a strong breeze to keep it coll. Extra openings would help.
I didn’t realize that these would come flat not pre bent. I have family that had a glass shop and said that this would about $180 including 1/2 hour to cut it out, sand the edges and prepare it for shipping. No telling how expensive shipping would be. This would be plexiglass not Lexan. Not sure if Lexan can even take to a bend though. This means that we could go to any glass shop with a template and get what we need. INTERESTING.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
3/16 or 1/4” plexi or lexan will probably not be pre-bent unless 90 degree bends are needed. It will assume the shape over time. You will see. You could order this through Interstate Plastics or E-Plastics, cut it with a table saw or jig saw, bevel it with a router, drill it, glue it, and screw it down.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
I have made many plexi windows from 8 x 4 sheets. It is not hard. The plexi will conform over time.
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,376
-na -NA Anywhere USA
some have menitioned the use of flex seal. All of us have used Dow 795 which is the industry standard and worked will for all of us. There is an old saying. Don't fix what works well and in this case I would urge you to use Dow 795.
 
  • Like
Likes: agprice22
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
I agree. The properties of other adhesives may be similar, but not the same. You want all the properties of Dow 795.
 

Sailm8

.
Feb 21, 2008
1,750
Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
FWIW Dow was developed to hold the windows into the frames of skyscrapers. Years ago the windows were blowing out of the Handcock building in Boston (I think).
 
Aug 22, 2017
1,609
Hunter 26.5 West Palm Beach
FWIW Dow was developed to hold the windows into the frames of skyscrapers. Years ago the windows were blowing out of the Handcock building in Boston (I think).
The fix for that particular building was solving the resonant frequency equation for the building & then suspending a calibrated weight on a spring inside the building to dampen the resonance. An egg head at MIT was the first guy to get the equation for that building figured out. I forget his name. The problem was actually caused by winds blowing at a steady speed next to the building & setting up a mechanical resonance. If you google "galloping gertie", you should find a video of the most famous example of this type of mechanical design issue.
 
  • Like
Likes: agprice22