The other thing is as soon as you jibe, let the main out. If the main is in tight as the boat rounds up it develops more and more drive as it goes from being overtrimmed to correctly trimmed. If the main is immediately let out, as you round up it luffs and loses drive ending the round up. In fact good thing to remember at all times, if you are having difficulty bearing off, let the main out.
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That's exactly the way to do it.. KISS. Just grab the bundle of mainsheet and pull the boom across. There is absolutely no reason to sheet all the way in, cleat, and sheet out again.. Leave it cleated and pull it across by hand. bada bing bada boom.
Practice in light winds. I do circles or figure eights just to relieve the boredom and reset the chart plotter. Since running down wind is generally the slowest boat response to wind speed I find my jibes work better if I gain boat speed first. So with your example taking a heading of 20 or 30 degrees or more just to speed up the boat, then do your jibe. My main is large so pulling the boom across isn't an option. If its really windy I'll come about 340 degrees so we can set a new course without spilling my coffee. Never see a video of that, but it works.
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Throwing the mainsheet and boom over will work great in light to medium winds, as Jackdaw said, but be sure there is nothing to loop the mainsheet on, or you will get an unpleasant surprise. This is especially common on end-boom sheeted boats. On these boats, grab the whole handful of the sheets to keep them from fouling!
By the way, hauling the mainsheet tight, jibing, and easing it is exactly how ASA teaches it, so it is not wrong.
Not wrong, but timing is important. Sheet in, start the jibe, sheet out as the boom crosses the centerline. If the sheet isn't let out quickly as the jibe is completed, the sail is going to load up and cause a broach as the wind catches it. Remember the wind is stronger than it feels when on a downwind course. Sometimes its just safer to tack around. Grabbing the mainsheet and throwing the boom across provides a braking effect, but that can be dangerous.
I followed Jackdaw advise after a bad jib event and it works. Thanks!
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Here is an interesting site with animation on the maneuver.
http://www.nauticed.org/sailing-blog/the-chicken-gybe-jibe/
http://www.nauticed.org/sailing-blog/the-chicken-gybe-jibe/
food for thought: jackdaw method is a racer move in light air which is fine.
on my alden my booms are made of sitka spruce with bronze cap fittings on the end that are secured with wood screws. the out haul track is stainless and bronze and again all held down with large wood screws into spruce. i would never allow the boom to swing and bang like that as it could do damage to the wood over time. when jibing i have a crew on both the main and mizzen to pull in to centerline and then let out quickly. no banging allowed, ever.
on my A scow i need to have total control during a jibe as well. the A scow has flying back stays that need to be switched during the jibe. allowing the boom to FLY over even in light air will chaff the back stays.
i prefer total control at all times. it takes practice with your crew. think of it as a ballet. it's fun to do well. music optional.
i'm sure the kids let her bang on the cal 20 but they don't have to pay to replace broken equipment. kids, what can you do.
short handed i always come about the wind.
on my alden my booms are made of sitka spruce with bronze cap fittings on the end that are secured with wood screws. the out haul track is stainless and bronze and again all held down with large wood screws into spruce. i would never allow the boom to swing and bang like that as it could do damage to the wood over time. when jibing i have a crew on both the main and mizzen to pull in to centerline and then let out quickly. no banging allowed, ever.
on my A scow i need to have total control during a jibe as well. the A scow has flying back stays that need to be switched during the jibe. allowing the boom to FLY over even in light air will chaff the back stays.
i prefer total control at all times. it takes practice with your crew. think of it as a ballet. it's fun to do well. music optional.
i'm sure the kids let her bang on the cal 20 but they don't have to pay to replace broken equipment. kids, what can you do.
short handed i always come about the wind.
i teach the control method even in light air because i see it as practice for a stronger breeze. 1 1/2 oz. bullet proof kite up in 35 knts of wind and you charging for the line but you need to jibe to win the race you will want a well practiced crew so to not blow out your gear.
now thats fun
now thats fun
with the yawl rig on light air jibes we have to dump the stay sails first, then jibe the spinnaker and main and mizzen, then redeploy the two staysails. practice, practice, practice,...... then more practice.
fun fact: racing aeolus is like having a barn dance on your mother's dinning room table, it takes skill to not scuff the finish
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