Mystery Sailboat

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Nov 26, 2007
155
Lancer 25 SoCal
Looking for information on the little red sailboat I just purchased. She is 15.5' in length, has both a main and jib, was laid up using a chopper gun, and used foam stringer construction. My guess would be 1960s construction. Thanks, Steve
 

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Nov 26, 2007
155
Lancer 25 SoCal
Looking for information on the little red sailboat I just purchased. She is 15.5' in length, has both a main and jib, was laid up using a chopper gun, and used foam stringer construction. My guess would be 1960s construction. Thanks, Steve
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,187
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
looks like an old 470

very popular olympic class racing dinghy. Look for a number or other designation imbedded in the hull towards the rear. How much did you pay...why didn't the seller know what it was. If it is a 470 you'll be able to find parts at a performance racing shop such as San Diego sailing supply or Annapolis Performance Sailing http://www.apsltd.com Daggerboard and rudder are expensive to replace. Hope the seller included all the parts. http://www.470.org/-The-Boat-
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,187
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
looks like an old 470

very popular olympic class racing dinghy. Look for a number or other designation imbedded in the hull towards the rear. How much did you pay...why didn't the seller know what it was. If it is a 470 you'll be able to find parts at a performance racing shop such as San Diego sailing supply or Annapolis Performance Sailing http://www.apsltd.com Daggerboard and rudder are expensive to replace. Hope the seller included all the parts. http://www.470.org/-The-Boat-
 
Jul 8, 2004
361
S2 9.1 chelsea ny
I agree

It does look like a 470. 470's were built starting in 1963 and are 15.5 ft. in length.
 
Jul 8, 2004
361
S2 9.1 chelsea ny
I agree

It does look like a 470. 470's were built starting in 1963 and are 15.5 ft. in length.
 
Nov 26, 2007
155
Lancer 25 SoCal
Does T6 Mean Anything

Good evening all and thanks for you solution. Looking again at the mainsail there is indeed "470" which I'd originally thought was the production series number. There is also T6 printed on the sail and was wondering if that meant anything? I again looked at the transom and where one would expect a manufacturer and serial number and there the fiberglass is glossy, as if someone had removed a sticker with that information. My second questions is it common for all manufacturers to apply the ID information using a sticker or permanently etched in the transom? Steve
 
Nov 26, 2007
155
Lancer 25 SoCal
Does T6 Mean Anything

Good evening all and thanks for you solution. Looking again at the mainsail there is indeed "470" which I'd originally thought was the production series number. There is also T6 printed on the sail and was wondering if that meant anything? I again looked at the transom and where one would expect a manufacturer and serial number and there the fiberglass is glossy, as if someone had removed a sticker with that information. My second questions is it common for all manufacturers to apply the ID information using a sticker or permanently etched in the transom? Steve
 
Dec 8, 2007
478
Irwin 41 CC Ketch LaConner WA
I can't

squat sit that low any more, but it looks like fun. Are thoes cut outs in the transom supose to be there? Looks like a wet ride if they are.
 
Dec 8, 2007
478
Irwin 41 CC Ketch LaConner WA
I can't

squat sit that low any more, but it looks like fun. Are thoes cut outs in the transom supose to be there? Looks like a wet ride if they are.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,187
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
you'll definitely get wet

it you sail these things the way you're supposed to. I suggest you investgate the link in my previous post for some action shots of this racing dinghy.http://470.org/fotos/worlds1/original/worlds4.html Actually the cut outs allow water to escape the cockpit. The crew never sits in the cockpit anyway, they're either hiked out or on the trapeze wire. Performance sailing at this level is very athletic.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,187
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
you'll definitely get wet

it you sail these things the way you're supposed to. I suggest you investgate the link in my previous post for some action shots of this racing dinghy.http://470.org/fotos/worlds1/original/worlds4.html Actually the cut outs allow water to escape the cockpit. The crew never sits in the cockpit anyway, they're either hiked out or on the trapeze wire. Performance sailing at this level is very athletic.
 

GuyT

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May 8, 2007
406
Hunter 34 South Amboy, NJ
Registration issues?

If you do not have any Hull ID info, mfgr, etc.. how can you register your boat. Won't you need some info to get it legal to get it into the water? PA required me to register my Kyaks of all things so I can launch from the boat launches run by the pa dept. of fish and wildlife. Money, money, money...
 

GuyT

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May 8, 2007
406
Hunter 34 South Amboy, NJ
Registration issues?

If you do not have any Hull ID info, mfgr, etc.. how can you register your boat. Won't you need some info to get it legal to get it into the water? PA required me to register my Kyaks of all things so I can launch from the boat launches run by the pa dept. of fish and wildlife. Money, money, money...
 
Nov 26, 2007
155
Lancer 25 SoCal
Void Inspection Ports

Good evening all. Yes we bored two holes on each side to look into the voids. The wonderful thing about fiberglass is almost anything is repairable and because the transom is so flimsy, we decided that would be the best place to peer inside, then repair. FYI...some of the deck hardware is missing and everything will need backing and rebedding. I suspect we'll be cutting more holes before she's back in the water. Registration...We're expecting a package from the previous owner and hopefully the old registration paperwork is included. At least we have the trailer ID information. Again, thanks everyone for you inputs. Steve
 
Nov 26, 2007
155
Lancer 25 SoCal
Void Inspection Ports

Good evening all. Yes we bored two holes on each side to look into the voids. The wonderful thing about fiberglass is almost anything is repairable and because the transom is so flimsy, we decided that would be the best place to peer inside, then repair. FYI...some of the deck hardware is missing and everything will need backing and rebedding. I suspect we'll be cutting more holes before she's back in the water. Registration...We're expecting a package from the previous owner and hopefully the old registration paperwork is included. At least we have the trailer ID information. Again, thanks everyone for you inputs. Steve
 
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