Moving exhaust below waterline

Sep 24, 2018
4,785
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
On the Catalina 30 MKIII, the exhaust swirls back into the cockpit and cabin. It stinks and leaves a mess all over the transom as well. The through hull is above the waterline with occasional dips below. Would moving the through hull below the waterline help? What, if any, modifications would be needed to prevent water intrusion?
 
Jan 11, 2014
14,249
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Have you asked the fish how they feel about diesel exhaust in their home? ;)

The exhaust hose has to rise well above the waterline at any angle of heel. The length of the hose is also an issue. When the engine is shut down any water in the exhaust line before the high loop will drain back into the muffler and potentially into the exhaust elbow if the run is long and the exhaust line isn't cleared.
 

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Mar 23, 2017
5,223
Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
An old expression comes to mind: "The enemy of good enough is better."

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Sep 25, 2008
7,744
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Keeping the exhaust thruhull above the WL ensures that siphoning backwards when shut down cant happen. The gravity loop ( elbow ) won’t prevent that in all cases.
 
Sep 30, 2016
449
Island Packet IP 44 Ventura, CA
Exhaust exits above water line: gas swirls with the wind.
Exhaust exit 6" below water line: Gas bubbles up 6" and swirls with the wind.

Dont motor downwind, or sail more. My wife hates diesel exhaust as well. Not much you can do about it.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,848
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Exhaust exits above water line: gas swirls with the wind.
Exhaust exit 6" below water line: Gas bubbles up 6" and swirls with the wind.
Exellently put. Not a trace of difference between the two levels.
IT STINKS :angry: !

As far as the other predictions that the world will end if the exhaust thru-hull is below water ........... meh, I'm far more worried about leaving my underwear laying around and having one of my female crew members hoist it up on a halyard :yikes: .

My exhaust loop is high enough that a following sea landing on deck would have to be higher than the coaming leading to the companionway in order to get over the loop. At that point, screw the engine and man the lifeboats.
 
Sep 24, 2018
4,785
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
My exhaust hose is a hair below the coaming. It cant get much higher in the aft end of the boat.

Any ideas on how to prevent exhaust from swirling back in to the cockpit? I'm pretty sure it's the shape of the boat and the walk through transom that are the contributing factors. Putting a board in the walk through portion might help fumes from entering the cockpit but it wont prevent it from building up like crazy on the transom. We usually motor a half mile to get to calmer seas.
 
Jan 11, 2014
14,249
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
My exhaust hose is a hair below the coaming. It cant get much higher in the aft end of the boat.

Any ideas on how to prevent exhaust from swirling back in to the cockpit? I'm pretty sure it's the shape of the boat and the walk through transom that are the contributing factors. Putting a board in the walk through portion might help fumes from entering the cockpit but it wont prevent it from building up like crazy on the transom. We usually motor a half mile to get to calmer seas.
Going downwind in wind speed greater than boat speed will always bring the exhaust forward, because the apparent wind is blowing forward. Instead of going dead downwind, try a broad reach with the exhaust port on the leeward side.
 
Sep 24, 2018
4,785
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
I'm pretty sure the hull is creating a vacuum of sorts. The curve of the hull starts the upward swirl and the vacuum effect finishes it off. I usually travel around 4.5-5kts
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,848
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
My exhaust hose is a hair below the coaming. It cant get much higher in the aft end of the boat.
Mentioning that in your opening post would have saved a lot of yacking back and forth.

Yes, I would describe the location of the exhaust as being faulty, in error, imperfect, flawed and badly in need of relocation.

Next is the need for photos of the aft of your boat showing the location of the thru-hull as it now stands and the surrounding area of the transom.

I know you're a reliable regular here. Please don't do what so many one timers have been doing recently. Ask them for a picture and it's just too bloody much trouble. Thanks.
 
Sep 24, 2018
4,785
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
Mentioning that in your opening post would have saved a lot of yacking back and forth.

Yes, I would describe the location of the exhaust as being faulty, in error, imperfect, flawed and badly in need of relocation.

Next is the need for photos of the aft of your boat showing the location of the thru-hull as it now stands and the surrounding area of the transom.

I know you're a reliable regular here. Please don't do what so many one timers have been doing recently. Ask them for a picture and it's just too bloody much trouble. Thanks.
The height of the hose just dawned on me when I read your post. I'll get a pic of the transom next week. I'm swamped with work at the moment. I have that clogged air filter sitting on my desk waiting for analysis. I could see a noticeable difference in the new one after only a few hours of motoring. The good news is the boat made the 5.5 hour journey without a hiccup. I know the dirty air filter only makes the soot build up on the transom worse.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,848
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
I'll get a pic of the transom next week.
Souds good. Maybe the group can come up with a better location which will sweep away the exhaust gas and avoid the endless browbeatings you endure every day when motoring.

The height of the hose just dawned on me when I read your post.
You mean the height of the thru-hull in relation to the top of the coaming ?

I could see a noticeable difference in the new one after only a few hours of motoring.
You mean a difference in that ithe new filter isn't picing up the mysterious black dust any more ? OK but that doesn't mean the black dust has disappeared from the equation. Just means the new filter isn't catching the black dust. Now the engine is choking on it.
 
Sep 24, 2018
4,785
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
You mean the height of the thru-hull in relation to the top of the coaming ?
The hose rises up to the underside of the coaming and travels forward 3-4' before turning back down
You mean a difference in that ithe new filter isn't picing up the mysterious black dust any more ? OK but that doesn't mean the black dust has disappeared from the equation. Just means the new filter isn't catching the black dust. Now the engine is choking on it.
I was shocked at how quickly the new filter looked dirty. I think this is belt dust. It's been cool out and I don't think the filter had been on there long enough for mold/mildew growth