Mid boom traveler use?

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,334
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Russ. You would be a good candidate for an infinitely adjustable traveler trim. The lake conditions were an instant give away.

Find a way to install the traveler that optimizes the use.
 
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RussC

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Sep 11, 2015
1,634
Merit 22- Oregon lakes
Russ. You would be a good candidate for an infinitely adjustable traveler trim. The lake conditions were an instant give away.

Find a way to install the traveler that optimizes the use.
I'm not sure what that is. I had assumed mine is already "infinitely adjustable" within its length.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,334
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Yes. That is true.
the question. Is it in the best place for your purpose.
I solo. Mine is located on the deck area before the companion way. As it is a flat track with pin stops, it does not interfere with crew sitting on the deck. The need to move if there is trim work but when on long tacks the deck is used as a seat.
As it is in front of my helm it is position to allow all sail trim to be accomplished. Solo sailing , I turn on the AP. Initiate the turn, step in front of the helm. Handle the sails then check the new heading and adjust as required.
 
Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I would agree with that as long as you can unlearn what isn't important and/or what puts undue wear and tear on the boat for only marginal performance benefit.

I don't think I learned much from my racing days, as I had been teaching for a while by that point and had figured out most of what I cared to learn about sail trim and such. Generally, I found racers to be hit-and-miss in terms of knowing what they're doing anyway. Lots of skippers making bad choices and not learning from them. The idea that competition brings out the best in people ... not in my experience.

Still, I am glad to have done it and, to Dave's point, I think I am better off for it.
Sail trim is an important, but small part of racing. Tactics and understanding wind, current, and VMG is where races are won and lost. The feedback on the race course is pretty immediate. If the skipper blows a wind shift or points too high he'll find himself further behind pretty quickly. Knowing how wind and current can affect VMG can make the difference between a fast safe passage and a slow passage.
 

Tomek

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Oct 4, 2015
20
Hunter 33 Penetanguishene
A lot depends on the design and size of the boat. On my boat there are 9 lines that control the main sail (halyard, sheet, outhaul, two furling lines (actually a loop), two lines contolling the traveller position, a topping lift, and a line ajusting the vang tension. With that much other control I rarely need to adjust the traveler position. Let me explain:
I have a Hunter 33 2006. My traveler is on top of the arch that this boat has, which is between the dodger and bimini. The main sheet is attached to the end of the boom and is routed through a single pulley on the traveler, back to the boom end, then through the boom to the mast, down to the pulley on the deck, then back to the cockpit. The boom also has a vang that prevents it from rising up and the topping lift that prevents the boom from dropping. Between these two and the sail itself, the vertical position of the boom is pretty much set. So the shape of the sail is also set. In my case then, adjusting the traveler position (continuously adjustable to over about 80% of the boat width) has essentially no effect on the sail shape. It affects though the force needed to pull the main sheet. With traveler centered when sailing close to the wind and boom close to the center, the sheet pulls mostly down and very little sideways. In this situation, the distance between the boom end and the traveler is very short (about one foot or even less). I could control the boom position by moving the traveler, but that is done by hand using the two controlling lines, and in strong wind requires quite a force. What I do instead, I move traveler to the windward before pulling the main sheet (by the windlass), and get the sheet pulling sideways rather than down.
BTW, if I want a fuller sail (for lighter winds) I let the outhaul a bit. The main is not attached to the length of the boom, the bottom leech is free, so this easily controls the bulge of the sail.
 
Mar 2, 2019
609
Oday 25 Milwaukee
When I brought our Oday 25 home , one of the first things I noticed was the traveler mounted in the cockpit directly in front
of the companion way .
"That's got to go !" is what I thought . Now almost 20 seasons of sailing behind us ,I've learned it's the very best place .
We sail the western side of Lake Michigan for the most part .
Late afternoon and early evenings presents the prime opportunity for large gust coming from the hot dry land over the cool lake .
As I solo sail most of the time , I've come to rely on the traveller a great deal . Having it directly in front of me has proven to be a the single best place . I'm have a hand on the tiller or the mainsheet
If we do have guest on board ,they are usually folks who have never sailed before . Moving the traveller down helps keep the boat on her feet and makes folks unfamiliar with heeling less apprehensive . I tend to believe a monohull needs to heel some before she get's in her groove .