Hi, Everyone, first-time poster here! I have a Helms 24' pocket cruiser sloop. 1978 model. I lost my keel at the seem line with no apparant leaking or taking water in. There are three bolts sticking out from the joint down toward the bottom of the sea, now. It looks like a clean break. I also lost the rudder in the sea. Does anyone know how much it costs for me to get another keel myself and put it back on myself? Or the rudder? I put 600 lbs of sandbags in the bottom of the boat to help create some ballast, which is helping some. The keel was a fixed lead keel and very very heavy. Now the boat floats very high in the water.
Lost Keel and Rudder 24' Helms
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Hi, Everyone, first-time poster here! I have a Helms 24' pocket cruiser sloop. 1978 model. I lost my keel at the seem line with no apparant leaking or taking water in. There are three bolts sticking out from the joint down toward the bottom of the sea, now. It looks like a clean break. I also lost the rudder in the sea. Does anyone know how much it costs for me to get another keel myself and put it back on myself? Or the rudder? I put 600 lbs of sandbags in the bottom of the boat to help create some ballast, which is helping some. The keel was a fixed lead keel and very very heavy. Now the boat floats very high in the water.
Holy Crap
Mrboatman-- Sorry to hear about this! What did you slam into or what slammed into you? You should look at Mars Metals about the keel and Foss Foam about your rudder. Simple e-searches will get you there. Hopefully this is a insurance claim issue for you. You might want to start looking for sisterships to harvest these needed parts. Please tell us the story on the incident. Best of Luck. Rob Hessenius
Mrboatman-- Sorry to hear about this! What did you slam into or what slammed into you? You should look at Mars Metals about the keel and Foss Foam about your rudder. Simple e-searches will get you there. Hopefully this is a insurance claim issue for you. You might want to start looking for sisterships to harvest these needed parts. Please tell us the story on the incident. Best of Luck. Rob Hessenius
Holy Crap
Mrboatman-- Sorry to hear about this! What did you slam into or what slammed into you? You should look at Mars Metals about the keel and Foss Foam about your rudder. Simple e-searches will get you there. Hopefully this is a insurance claim issue for you. You might want to start looking for sisterships to harvest these needed parts. Please tell us the story on the incident. Best of Luck. Rob Hessenius
Mrboatman-- Sorry to hear about this! What did you slam into or what slammed into you? You should look at Mars Metals about the keel and Foss Foam about your rudder. Simple e-searches will get you there. Hopefully this is a insurance claim issue for you. You might want to start looking for sisterships to harvest these needed parts. Please tell us the story on the incident. Best of Luck. Rob Hessenius
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For the keel...if you don't have insurance...check with every boatyard in the area as they usually have some laying around after crushing boats. For the rudder...there are a lot of options from making your own to Foss Foaming it to buying a used one and modifying it. How odd that both items would fail at the same time. But, now you can put on a bulb keel. Good luck with it.
For the keel...if you don't have insurance...check with every boatyard in the area as they usually have some laying around after crushing boats. For the rudder...there are a lot of options from making your own to Foss Foaming it to buying a used one and modifying it. How odd that both items would fail at the same time. But, now you can put on a bulb keel. Good luck with it.
interesting
For the keel...if you don't have insurance...check with every boatyard in the area as they usually have some laying around after crushing boats. For the rudder...there are a lot of options from making your own to Foss Foaming it to buying a used one and modifying it. How odd that both items would fail at the same time. But, now you can put on a bulb keel. Good luck with it.
For the keel...if you don't have insurance...check with every boatyard in the area as they usually have some laying around after crushing boats. For the rudder...there are a lot of options from making your own to Foss Foaming it to buying a used one and modifying it. How odd that both items would fail at the same time. But, now you can put on a bulb keel. Good luck with it.
I would suggest you find another boat.
First of all to lose both at sea??? I can see if you grounded loosing both. I think this thread is a spoof. r.w.landau
First of all to lose both at sea??? I can see if you grounded loosing both. I think this thread is a spoof. r.w.landau
I would suggest you find another boat.
First of all to lose both at sea??? I can see if you grounded loosing both. I think this thread is a spoof. r.w.landau
First of all to lose both at sea??? I can see if you grounded loosing both. I think this thread is a spoof. r.w.landau
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Hey MrBoatman! Saw your ad for the boat today on Craigslist. I also have a friend with a small boat who told me about a similiar experience some time ago. He had his boat in a shallow marina here that got beaten up during a similiar squall. Try calling Frank or Peggy at Cobb's Marina - 588-5401 or 588-8926. They've steered me right every time I've dealt with them. Also try contacting Howdy Bailey. I don't have his number, but Cobb's will know it. He is a master boat builder here and he'd know where to steer you for replacement parts if that's what you want to do. Good luck. BTW I've had good luck with the Craigslist here in Tidewater. Best Wishes.
Hey MrBoatman! Saw your ad for the boat today on Craigslist. I also have a friend with a small boat who told me about a similiar experience some time ago. He had his boat in a shallow marina here that got beaten up during a similiar squall. Try calling Frank or Peggy at Cobb's Marina - 588-5401 or 588-8926. They've steered me right every time I've dealt with them. Also try contacting Howdy Bailey. I don't have his number, but Cobb's will know it. He is a master boat builder here and he'd know where to steer you for replacement parts if that's what you want to do. Good luck. BTW I've had good luck with the Craigslist here in Tidewater. Best Wishes.
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Hey MrBoatman! Saw your ad for the boat today on Craigslist. I also have a friend with a small boat who told me about a similiar experience some time ago. He had his boat in a shallow marina here that got beaten up during a similiar squall. Try calling Frank or Peggy at Cobb's Marina - 588-5401 or 588-8926. They've steered me right every time I've dealt with them. Also try contacting Howdy Bailey. I don't have his number, but Cobb's will know it. He is a master boat builder here and he'd know where to steer you for replacement parts if that's what you want to do. Good luck. BTW I've had good luck with the Craigslist here in Tidewater. Best Wishes.
Hey MrBoatman! Saw your ad for the boat today on Craigslist. I also have a friend with a small boat who told me about a similiar experience some time ago. He had his boat in a shallow marina here that got beaten up during a similiar squall. Try calling Frank or Peggy at Cobb's Marina - 588-5401 or 588-8926. They've steered me right every time I've dealt with them. Also try contacting Howdy Bailey. I don't have his number, but Cobb's will know it. He is a master boat builder here and he'd know where to steer you for replacement parts if that's what you want to do. Good luck. BTW I've had good luck with the Craigslist here in Tidewater. Best Wishes.
Thanks To Those Who Helped
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks To Those Who Helped
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks To Those Who Helped
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks To Those Who Helped
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
Thanks, Marcia and others who made suggestions. To those who were sarcastic and condescending, your remarks were like making fun of someone, so you wanted to make fun of a fellow sailor who had a disaster. If it was you you would not be laughing. You know who you are, laughing and making fun, you give a first time poster a very bad opinion of SOME of the ***holes who post on these forums. Hope nothing bad ever happens to you so you will always be able to laugh at the misfortunes of others. Tanks a lot! By the way, I have more degrees than you, just not trying to prove it on this forum. . . . .
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If all you have to say is smarta****remarks and trying to be humorous but coming off as a big jerk, don't bother to post to my topics, you're no help to anyone with your smart remarks. Go ***** yourself off if you have nothing better to do than this crap.
Do me a favor.
If all you have to say is smarta****remarks and trying to be humorous but coming off as a big jerk, don't bother to post to my topics, you're no help to anyone with your smart remarks. Go ***** yourself off if you have nothing better to do than this crap.
If all you have to say is smarta****remarks and trying to be humorous but coming off as a big jerk, don't bother to post to my topics, you're no help to anyone with your smart remarks. Go ***** yourself off if you have nothing better to do than this crap.
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