I’m sorry to say that this boat in bad shape with lots of new paint to cover it up. NOT a cream puff. Lots of old damage to this boat. I don’t like seeing new paint over old damage. I’d guess that was a free boat that somebody has patched up and is trying to get his time paid for.
Lots of potential problems with this boat.
That foredeck in front of the hatch looks like there’s a lot of damage. All of that indicates the foredeck had rotten core, and the repair is not well done, inside and outside. I don’t know what oem Mac 25 backing plates like inside, near the pulpit, but I’ve been on hundreds of sailboats, and that looks like crap to me. those backing plates look amateurish. That square patch of rough roving on the underside of the foredeck in front of the front hatch that looks very amatueish to me. On the outside, near the bow pulpit, there are places where he slapped some resin over cracks and a single layer of glass tape., and didn’t even put a topcoat of any kind over it. Those are slapdash patches and they are seriously substandard.
On the inside, why did he paint after rebidding the hardware; that's backwards. Who knows what the new paint is hiding.
And those cracks on the rudder don’t look good. I don’t like those cracks inthe rudder that he painted or gelcoated over. He painted over the bolts, for goodness sake! That’s not a good sign.
And that crack in the sliding top hatch? It looks like another slapdash repair to me. He didn’t repair that properly either. He didn’t grind out the old glass and bevel in new laminate, nor finish with topcoat. That’s just exposed resin. That kind of repair will crack again.
Overall, I would say that boat has seen a lot of damage, and none of it repaired well. And equally scary is that there’s no way to know what’s been painted over.
Just like I warned, that trailer roller punched a hole in the bow. It looks to me like it was repaired from the outside with a squared off patch slapped on top of damaged laminate. Again, that’s not a professional looking repair. It shouldnt have sharp, squared corners, and I’d be willing to bet that if you look inside under the v berth, he didn’t grind out and remove all the cracked and damaged glass all the way through. That patch is slapped on from the outside. That patch will fail sooner or later, especially with that bow roller. Fiberglass can be repaired as good as new, but that’s not what a good repair looks like
More... The swing keel “support” isn't supporting the keel properly and will damage the pivot pin and the leading edge. And the keel looks crooked, not vetical. There are problems there.
More... That story about the bottom paint wearing off is rubbish. It’s not going to wear off without sanding... And furthermore it looks like the original bottom gelcoat has been sanded off completely in one picture,, down to the outer layer of glass (chopped mat?), which looks like dry fibers, which is not right. Hard to tell, but it looks like there was a problem with the outer layer of glass and gelcoat....
That boat is one big bucket of problems and so is the trailer. It’s not worth fixinf. The boat itself is worthless. It’s a liability rather than an asset. The seller or a previous owner put a lot of work into fixing it up, but it wasn’t worthy of the effort in the first place and he didn’t know what he was doing. I feel sorry for him. He spent a lot f time and money, but the hull was a junker before he even started. Somebody spent good money on the Outboard, the mast, new halyards and the sails. The trailer is worth a couple of hundred but it’s really not suitable as is for use with this boat.
—->>>> I’d walk away. And call it a learning experience.
I’m going to repeat that my original advice: go to a launch ramp near your intended sailing grounds, take a look at some boats and talk to the owners. Ask them to point out what they like and don’t like. They will tell yu straight because they’re not trying to sell you something. They will gloss over the flaws in their boats because of pride of ownership, but you will still learn a lot. Ask them to,show you the stress cracks (of which all older boats have a few or a lot) Tell them you’re looking to learn before you buy.
You need to get more exposure before you buy a boat. Slow down and take your time.
Judy B
Lots of potential problems with this boat.
That foredeck in front of the hatch looks like there’s a lot of damage. All of that indicates the foredeck had rotten core, and the repair is not well done, inside and outside. I don’t know what oem Mac 25 backing plates like inside, near the pulpit, but I’ve been on hundreds of sailboats, and that looks like crap to me. those backing plates look amateurish. That square patch of rough roving on the underside of the foredeck in front of the front hatch that looks very amatueish to me. On the outside, near the bow pulpit, there are places where he slapped some resin over cracks and a single layer of glass tape., and didn’t even put a topcoat of any kind over it. Those are slapdash patches and they are seriously substandard.
On the inside, why did he paint after rebidding the hardware; that's backwards. Who knows what the new paint is hiding.
And those cracks on the rudder don’t look good. I don’t like those cracks inthe rudder that he painted or gelcoated over. He painted over the bolts, for goodness sake! That’s not a good sign.
And that crack in the sliding top hatch? It looks like another slapdash repair to me. He didn’t repair that properly either. He didn’t grind out the old glass and bevel in new laminate, nor finish with topcoat. That’s just exposed resin. That kind of repair will crack again.
Overall, I would say that boat has seen a lot of damage, and none of it repaired well. And equally scary is that there’s no way to know what’s been painted over.
Just like I warned, that trailer roller punched a hole in the bow. It looks to me like it was repaired from the outside with a squared off patch slapped on top of damaged laminate. Again, that’s not a professional looking repair. It shouldnt have sharp, squared corners, and I’d be willing to bet that if you look inside under the v berth, he didn’t grind out and remove all the cracked and damaged glass all the way through. That patch is slapped on from the outside. That patch will fail sooner or later, especially with that bow roller. Fiberglass can be repaired as good as new, but that’s not what a good repair looks like
More... The swing keel “support” isn't supporting the keel properly and will damage the pivot pin and the leading edge. And the keel looks crooked, not vetical. There are problems there.
More... That story about the bottom paint wearing off is rubbish. It’s not going to wear off without sanding... And furthermore it looks like the original bottom gelcoat has been sanded off completely in one picture,, down to the outer layer of glass (chopped mat?), which looks like dry fibers, which is not right. Hard to tell, but it looks like there was a problem with the outer layer of glass and gelcoat....
That boat is one big bucket of problems and so is the trailer. It’s not worth fixinf. The boat itself is worthless. It’s a liability rather than an asset. The seller or a previous owner put a lot of work into fixing it up, but it wasn’t worthy of the effort in the first place and he didn’t know what he was doing. I feel sorry for him. He spent a lot f time and money, but the hull was a junker before he even started. Somebody spent good money on the Outboard, the mast, new halyards and the sails. The trailer is worth a couple of hundred but it’s really not suitable as is for use with this boat.
—->>>> I’d walk away. And call it a learning experience.
I’m going to repeat that my original advice: go to a launch ramp near your intended sailing grounds, take a look at some boats and talk to the owners. Ask them to point out what they like and don’t like. They will tell yu straight because they’re not trying to sell you something. They will gloss over the flaws in their boats because of pride of ownership, but you will still learn a lot. Ask them to,show you the stress cracks (of which all older boats have a few or a lot) Tell them you’re looking to learn before you buy.
You need to get more exposure before you buy a boat. Slow down and take your time.
Judy B
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