Does anyone have knowledge about how to refurbish a keel retract mechanism on a Morgan 21? It may be the same process as a Morgan 24?
Keel retract repair
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I just found the website that merlinuxo pointed out in January. It is very helpful with schematics of the kell retract mechanism. The keel on the Morgan 21 seems stuck in the trunk. The keel is blocked up so it will not suddenly fall down and I have disconnect the cable inside the bilge. I am using a thin hacksaw bade without the handle to work in the small space between the trunk and blade to attempt to free it. If this fails I may try to drive out the pivot pin. Thanks for the website merlinuxo!!
You're welcome.
How are you coming with your boat?
I didn't want to spend the money and time putting mine back to original so followed a 22 owner and have a line that runs from the end of the board up through and thru hull in the top of the trunk, sheilds ext hose and then through another thru hull in my cockpit well where it is held by a cam cleat.
How are you coming with your boat?
I didn't want to spend the money and time putting mine back to original so followed a 22 owner and have a line that runs from the end of the board up through and thru hull in the top of the trunk, sheilds ext hose and then through another thru hull in my cockpit well where it is held by a cam cleat.
The work is slow and frustrating!,, I have spent the last thee evenings after work, laying on my back, looking up at the centerboard iand keel trunk, and taking a hacksaw blade with no handle, and trying to clear the mud-dobber mess, and old bottom paint, and shave a tiny portion of the delaminated centerboard so it will move out of the trunk. No luck thus far. I am considering screwing an eyebolt through the old steel so I could have an attachment to pull down, but the eyebolt would probably not hold in the flakey rust. If I cut a hole in the trunk from the Bildge side, I could perhaps see the stern edge of the centerboard and I could push it out from the top. There are only remnants of two stainless screws thar I can see from below that may have held the pivot pin in place. I can see a small end of the pivot pin on the port side and a larger end on the starboard side and I think driving out the pin will not free the centerboard. What keeps water from flowing into the boat with your system? Did you use original nylon rod with "packing"? Did you have trouble with a stuck centerboard? Do you have the old original winch and was it functional?,
When I got my boat (and for a few years) the board was pinned up by a PO drilling a hole thru one side of the trunk, the center board and the other side of the trunk and using a s/s bolt and nut to hold it up. The parts to lift the board were missing except for the turning block in the bilge which was just a hunk of rust.
Might look to see if a PO did something similar with yours. If you joined Morgan Owners over at Yahoo Groups you can go into my photo folder "Merlins stuff" and see pics of the parts that make up the pivot. There is a bronze block on each side and these hold the pin. Each has 2 s/s screws that hold them to the hull. Bed the screws and blocks with something like 3M 101 (not 5200 or 4200) and the water stays out.
Morgan built great boats but the rig for lifting the CB is a PITA which I can see as necessary on the inboard engine models but not the outboard models. I have a bronze winch that I bought on ebay but it's not for this boat and would be hard to mount properly in line with the second turning block, plus it's not set up right to acess from the side of the cockpit well.
I've helped a friend free his CB (stuck with barnacles and oysters in the trunk), we used a carpenters hand saw (where you're using the hack saw blade) and it went pretty well. Ruined the saw but we got the board down.
The rig I came up with looks kinda like the drawing below (please excuse my graphics). You can see everything except the board and lifting line. I just used a piece of 3/8" double braid that I had and a cam cleat mounted to the cockit well side to hold the board up. The end of the line is tied to a strap eye and there is a small single block in the line that I attached a piece of dowel to for a handle and 2:1 purchase.
I didn't take any pics of the underwater parts when I had the boat out but can take pics of the out of the water parts if that will help you.
I mentioned that I left mine up for a while. I was working on another boat and didn't get started on this one until that sold.
The good thing is these boats sail pretty well with the board up because of the fixed keel and hull shape.
Let me know if I can help.
Might look to see if a PO did something similar with yours. If you joined Morgan Owners over at Yahoo Groups you can go into my photo folder "Merlins stuff" and see pics of the parts that make up the pivot. There is a bronze block on each side and these hold the pin. Each has 2 s/s screws that hold them to the hull. Bed the screws and blocks with something like 3M 101 (not 5200 or 4200) and the water stays out.
Morgan built great boats but the rig for lifting the CB is a PITA which I can see as necessary on the inboard engine models but not the outboard models. I have a bronze winch that I bought on ebay but it's not for this boat and would be hard to mount properly in line with the second turning block, plus it's not set up right to acess from the side of the cockpit well.
I've helped a friend free his CB (stuck with barnacles and oysters in the trunk), we used a carpenters hand saw (where you're using the hack saw blade) and it went pretty well. Ruined the saw but we got the board down.
The rig I came up with looks kinda like the drawing below (please excuse my graphics). You can see everything except the board and lifting line. I just used a piece of 3/8" double braid that I had and a cam cleat mounted to the cockit well side to hold the board up. The end of the line is tied to a strap eye and there is a small single block in the line that I attached a piece of dowel to for a handle and 2:1 purchase.
I didn't take any pics of the underwater parts when I had the boat out but can take pics of the out of the water parts if that will help you.
I mentioned that I left mine up for a while. I was working on another boat and didn't get started on this one until that sold.
The good thing is these boats sail pretty well with the board up because of the fixed keel and hull shape.
Let me know if I can help.
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I just noticed yours is a Morgan 21? What year is it?
Is this it? http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=280
Is this it? http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=280
Yes the Morgan 22 that I am trying to repair is a 1971, I believe it is the last year they were made. It was a gift to my Scout Troop from the second owner, who purchase it around 1977 and owned it up until 2009. The second owner restored it in 1990 but it just sat on the trailer from1991 until 2009. Paperwork That has been handed down through the years indicates this M22 as the 1971 showroom model. This centerboard M22 does not seem to have the bronze centerboard swing keel pin holders that your M22 has. Today I purchased a recipicating saw, and after slow progress with the hacksaw blade tonight, I may do some serious cutting this weekend. If I can get the old centerboard out, then it can be replaced or repaired. The winch that is still present is " locked up". It seems to have one stainless rivet that hold two bronze halves with a " bearing like" mechanism that goes clockwise or counter clockwise controlled by a "trigger" like lever. It may be able to be rebuilt. The two "blocks " in the centerboard cable system , are rusted to ruin as was your remaining one. I have rebuilt the tiller with a beautiful walnut piece of walnut. The rudder has new marine plywood and will be rebuilt soon. The mast is intact and the boom is in good shape with roller reeling that still works. Your help and suggestions are most appreciated. Thanks!,
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