Houston To SanFrancisco

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Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
Anybody ever make the journey ? I'm considering it. I have a Bene 321 and am looking at transporting her to California its looks like it will cost $6000 to $7000 depending on the shipper. I can get a a couple of months of work if I were to do it soon. The question is When is the best time of year ? How long could it take ? Best and worst case. Cost average ? I know the Panama canal is a good chunk of change. I have friends that are waiting right this moment to pass through on their way to the Galapagos Islands from Galveston. I'm going to spend the money anyway . I might as well have an adventure.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Figure out the mileage and figure about 125 miles per day. Add to this days that you may to stay in port.
 
Jul 20, 2005
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Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
Patrick:

I'll sail it over for ya for 2Gs and a plane ticket home and you can join me for as much of it you can make...I'll need you for going through the canal. As for best time, you have to worry about hurricane season in the Gulf and Pacific. This year there isn't much of a season and the later the season, the more north they go, however, it's a bad season in the Pacific. You also have to worry about winter storms up near San Fran, so I'd leave here as soon as possible and play the weather going up the west coast until you got past mexico. That's the rough part....going aganst the current up the coast. Once you got into safe waters, then you can get farther out away from the current.
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
You also have to worry about winter storms up near San Fran, so I'd leave here as soon as possible and play the weather going up the west coast until you got past mexico. That's the rough part....going aganst the current up the coast. Once you got into safe waters, then you can get farther out away from the current.
What utter nonsense. The Baja coast of Mexico is not a current issue, it is a wind issue. You have three choices: the Baja Bash which is stupid but most people do it; going halfway to Hawaii, if you have the time,called the Clipper Ship Route with good and obvious reasons; or the Baja Dash where you harbor hop up the coast, sleep at anchor each night and actually enjoy yourself. The only grueling part is the first 150 miles leaving Cabo heading north.

Then all ya got left is the 600 miles from San Diego to San Francisco!:):)

"It never rains in Southern California" is a myth. Winter storms near San Fran---BS, storms run from the border north, it rains in LA and in San Diego. They also have weather south of the border! C'mon, be real...

If you use Steve's idea with distance and time, then you just ain't gonna make it through the Canal and then up through, oh three or four countries before you get up to Mexico, up the coast of Mexico, and across the Gulf to Cabo in time to beat this winter.

What kinda shape is your boat in?

I recommend you do some serious research. If I were in your boat, I'd go to Cruising World magazine's website and look up everything they have on Baja, then to go Latitude38.com and read their first timer's guide to Mexico, and Google Baja Bash. That's just for starters.
 
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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
If you make this trip in delivery mode it will not be fun. You'll constantly be worried about making time and end up sailing long watches in unfavorable conditions. The wear and tear on your boat will be significant, so expect to spend a few bucks on refitting the boat once you get to SF.

If you make this trip in cruising mode with a minmal time table, say at least a year to take time enjoying the wonderful cruising areas you'll pass through, then this trip may be the greatest ever.

Personally, I would not be inclined to go the delivery routine. The SF bay area is a wonderful cruising ground. I'd truck the boat there, figuring the 6k is far less than a refit after 3 straight months of pushing the boat hard against wind and current. Once in SF I'd get hooked up with the local sailing scene and start enjoying your new home. You will find it vastly different from Galveston bay and the gulf.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
Patrick:

I'll sail it over for ya for 2Gs and a plane ticket home and you can join me for as much of it you can make...I'll need you for going through the canal. As for best time, you have to worry about hurricane season in the Gulf and Pacific. This year there isn't much of a season and the later the season, the more north they go, however, it's a bad season in the Pacific. You also have to worry about winter storms up near San Fran, so I'd leave here as soon as possible and play the weather going up the west coast until you got past mexico. That's the rough part....going aganst the current up the coast. Once you got into safe waters, then you can get farther out away from the current.


Franklin,
Are you on vacation still ? If you have the time, you could go with me.I wont pay you to go. I will buy all provisions and everything else. Think of as a free, all inclusive vacation. I don't have any idea how long it would take. But it would be fun. Greg is sitting at the entrance to the canal waiting to go through. He's been there for 4 weeks . I don't know whats going on or whats the hang up. Maybe the weather sucks in the Galapagos. I track them on iboattrack (coconut) Ill come down to the marina on Thurs and we can pow-wow over some beers. The boat is ready to go. We would only need a plan and a date to set sail.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
Anybody know off hand the fee's to transit the Panama canal ? Any other taxes or tariffs to be aware of ?
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,197
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
The Canal has a website.. I think that fees and losts of other info are there.. Can't seem to find my link but if ya Google it, it will come up. There are web cams where you can watch yachts and ships going thru the different locks..
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
FYI........ found these fee's from another cruising web-site. The poster states...........
$650 Transit fee up to a 50 ' sail boat
$850 Buffer fee. (I believe this is refundable) they didn't say.
$450 delay fee. If you are Tom Delay or your boat does less than 8 knots
$50 dollar inspection fee

It looks to be about $900 if I make it through without a hitch. Chime in if you disagree with these fees.

More fee's I have found..........
$50 mooring fee
$320 launch fee
Its getting more expensive.It appears that they are charging for everything and anything to pay the cost of the new canal.
I'm certain there's gonna be more $$$ to pay-up
Now I hear it takes 3 months to get the $ 850 refundable buffer fee back.
 
Jul 20, 2005
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Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
I've never heard of the buffer fee. The Delay fee is if you can't make it through in one day, which you should be able to. The one fee you don't have listed that some pay is a broker fee (paying a guy to do all the paperwork for you and reduce the waiting time). You will need to have at least two people on the boat to handle lines but I hear you can hire line handlers for cheap.

Don't count on me going. I can't go unless my expenses at home are covered. Sorry. My expenses at home for 3 months would be about 2Gs.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
OK. I thought you weren't working. Ill just put it on a truck and you can watch the ducks swim past your stearn in the marina.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
All inclusive vacation giveaway !

Anybody else care to pass up a free vacation through the Panama Canal to San Francisco ?
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,312
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Boat speed

32 foot boat, how can you go 8 knots sustained through the canal? Looks like you will not make it in one day, right?
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
32 foot boat, how can you go 8 knots sustained through the canal? Looks like you will not make it in one day, right?
I do not think the requirement is 8 knots but I could be wrong. It's only 51 miles. I've gotten the impression that very few boats take more than a day.
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
OK. I thought you weren't working.
I am working on software to start up my own business. I'm 65% done now. I will need to put in 10 hours of work every day on my software that I'm not making an income so that's why I can't do the trip without pay....budget doesn't allow it. Once I'm done, I'll be able to make a good income while I'm cruising and can go anywhere anytime :dance:
 
Dec 2, 1997
9,011
- - LIttle Rock
Maybe more people would be able to do segments of the trip

Anybody else care to pass up a free vacation through the Panama Canal to San Francisco ?
Someone who couldn't take time off for the whole trip could manage the time to do the Houston to Panama leg (with a stop somewhere around Cancun, maybe?)...someone else could go through the Canal with you...and someone on the west coast could join you for one or two segments of that leg. Maybe even more than one someone.

Just a thought...
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,312
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I do not think the requirement is 8 knots but I could be wrong. It's only 51 miles. I've gotten the impression that very few boats take more than a day.
See reply #9, looks like he did his homework. I recall mention of that in most canal articles. What I do not recall is that once the nifty little yacht club on Lake Gatun was closed (by the Panamanian officials - jerks) is how a lotta yachts coudl make it in a day because not a whole lot of boats can do 8 knots.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
And you thought toll roads sucked !

FYI....... I contacted one of the companies that assist you in transiting the canal. Here is what they said..........

Canal transit fee $650
Buffer fee $850
Transit company $450 (takes care of the paperwork for you)

Actual upfront cost is $1500 DIY. And $1950 if you hire the help. There are a couple of other incidental fees that amount to about $20. (cruising tax and a visitors visa)
The buffer fee IS REFUNDED after 90 days provided all went smoothly and you didn't require any assistance from the canal authority. If you do, prepare for self-lubrication and have plenty of cash. You have to keep up with the traffic or your screwed.

Actual nautical miles from Galveston to San Francisco is 4768 NMs
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
I am working on software to start up my own business. I'm 65% done now. I will need to put in 10 hours of work every day on my software that I'm not making an income so that's why I can't do the trip without pay....budget doesn't allow it. Once I'm done, I'll be able to make a good income while I'm cruising and can go anywhere anytime :dance:

Your off the hook Franklin. (no pun intended)
 
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