thanks for the reply. floors boards are up but the hoses enter the holes in the fiberglass grid pan. seems they are stuck between the engine compartment and under the floor near heater. pulling on both ends with no movement on the other end. looks like cutting a hole in the grid for inspection to see if it clamped inside.Most likely. Just remove the screws that secure the floorboards down and lift them. That should give you plenty of access.