Another victim of Sandy
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How does this happen in 2012
I just heard on the CBC that the Bounty has sunk today. Yes that Bounty.
Its a school! Really. It is used with teenagers for training etc.
Here is a link to the CBC web story.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-hms-bounty-hurricane-sandy.html
What were they doing anywhere on the water with a BIG storm brewing? How much notice did we have on this storm? A week at least.
I just heard on the CBC that the Bounty has sunk today. Yes that Bounty.
Its a school! Really. It is used with teenagers for training etc.
Here is a link to the CBC web story.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-hms-bounty-hurricane-sandy.html
What were they doing anywhere on the water with a BIG storm brewing? How much notice did we have on this storm? A week at least.
Re: Another victim of Sandy
A bit more info.
http://www.wral.com/coast-guard-responds-to-ship-in-distress-from-hurricane-sandy/11712779/
A bit more info.
http://www.wral.com/coast-guard-responds-to-ship-in-distress-from-hurricane-sandy/11712779/
Re: How does this happen in 2012
Darn! Saw her several years ago in Chicago for the Tall Ships tour. How in the heck did they get caught out there knowing this was coming since early last week?
Darn! Saw her several years ago in Chicago for the Tall Ships tour. How in the heck did they get caught out there knowing this was coming since early last week?
It does suck. Two missing, as far as the reporting goes. We'll know more about the "why" soon.
Re: How does this happen in 2012
Captain said he was trying to "skirt" around Sandy. I am no captain and I am sure I do not have the amount of experience this captain has but it has been plainly clear that Sandy is a big storm and extends well beyond the eye for the last 3-4 days. There is no possible way to "skirt" around something as big as sandy.
Hopefully they find the two missing sailors and we are just talking about material losses.
Captain said he was trying to "skirt" around Sandy. I am no captain and I am sure I do not have the amount of experience this captain has but it has been plainly clear that Sandy is a big storm and extends well beyond the eye for the last 3-4 days. There is no possible way to "skirt" around something as big as sandy.
Hopefully they find the two missing sailors and we are just talking about material losses.
Re: How does this happen in 2012
Unless they can raise it, the likelihood of ever seeing another one is pretty remote.
Pretty foolish to be out there when they could easily have come inland and layed up somewhere.
Unless they can raise it, the likelihood of ever seeing another one is pretty remote.
Pretty foolish to be out there when they could easily have come inland and layed up somewhere.
Re: Another victim of Sandy
I got to tour her last year in Wilmington, NC Sad to hear she is gone. Sounds like something mechanical was more the issue then the storm. I would not think she would have had any problem handling 18ft seas and 40mph winds.
I got to tour her last year in Wilmington, NC Sad to hear she is gone. Sounds like something mechanical was more the issue then the storm. I would not think she would have had any problem handling 18ft seas and 40mph winds.
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The bounty was built as a movie set in the late 50's if memory serves. I have seen it in for major rebuilds in Maine at least twice but even so it is a very old ship any way it is looked at. It will be interesting to find out if we do what the Captain was doing out there. It seems on the surface to be inadvised at best. I hope they have retrieved the crew.
Best to all impacted by this storm.
The bounty was built as a movie set in the late 50's if memory serves. I have seen it in for major rebuilds in Maine at least twice but even so it is a very old ship any way it is looked at. It will be interesting to find out if we do what the Captain was doing out there. It seems on the surface to be inadvised at best. I hope they have retrieved the crew.
Best to all impacted by this storm.
Re: How does this happen in 2012
I got to tour her last year in Wilmington, NC Sad to hear she is gone. I would not think a 180ft ship like that would have had any problem handling 18ft seas and 40mph winds.
I do see in Wikipedia that she just came out of dry dock last week. Sounds like maybe something mechanical was more the issue then the storm.
I got to tour her last year in Wilmington, NC Sad to hear she is gone. I would not think a 180ft ship like that would have had any problem handling 18ft seas and 40mph winds.
I do see in Wikipedia that she just came out of dry dock last week. Sounds like maybe something mechanical was more the issue then the storm.
Re: How does this happen in 2012
Its really a sad loss to hear she's sunk. When are sailors gonna start heeding the N.C coast as the Graveyard of the Atlantic? I grew up sailing N.C. waters & gained a healthy respect for them. We capsized some open sailboats there more then once. I can't beleive that a Captain of a special vessel like this would risk his crew & ship when there was a week's notice of this storm. I hope no one is lost, and the Bounty was irreplaceable. I saw a film on her construction, they spent over a year building her with hand axes, chisles & awls & spent millions of 1960's era dollars on her. What a loss, and completely preventable.
Its really a sad loss to hear she's sunk. When are sailors gonna start heeding the N.C coast as the Graveyard of the Atlantic? I grew up sailing N.C. waters & gained a healthy respect for them. We capsized some open sailboats there more then once. I can't beleive that a Captain of a special vessel like this would risk his crew & ship when there was a week's notice of this storm. I hope no one is lost, and the Bounty was irreplaceable. I saw a film on her construction, they spent over a year building her with hand axes, chisles & awls & spent millions of 1960's era dollars on her. What a loss, and completely preventable.
Re: Another victim of Sandy
Kudos to the CG. It's wrong that they were called out in that weather but they did what they do - which is to be the heros. I don't know if everyone was recovered or not but 14 of 16 is pretty damn good.
I still regret not getting a tour of the base in Elizabeth City. It would have been a better afternoon than the tour of retirement development.
Kudos to the CG. It's wrong that they were called out in that weather but they did what they do - which is to be the heros. I don't know if everyone was recovered or not but 14 of 16 is pretty damn good.
I still regret not getting a tour of the base in Elizabeth City. It would have been a better afternoon than the tour of retirement development.
I've combined the 2 threads about the sinking of the HMS Bounty.
At this point, Coast Guard are reporting 2 of the 16 crew missing. There are other reports of 17 crew on board, but not confirmed. There is a C130 on scene and 2 helicopters involved in the search.
USCG Update
A crew member posted on his Facebook page his helicopter has arrived at USCG station in NC. USCG has not released names of those rescued.
https://www.facebook.com/n6tqs/posts/10151215260928396
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The only report of what the Captain was thinking came from news interview with the Captains wife.
Our thoughts go out the families of the crew. They're probably just now starting to find out who is safe and who is missing.
At this point, Coast Guard are reporting 2 of the 16 crew missing. There are other reports of 17 crew on board, but not confirmed. There is a C130 on scene and 2 helicopters involved in the search.
USCG Update
A crew member posted on his Facebook page his helicopter has arrived at USCG station in NC. USCG has not released names of those rescued.
https://www.facebook.com/n6tqs/posts/10151215260928396
HMS Bounty Facebook
The only report of what the Captain was thinking came from news interview with the Captains wife.
Our thoughts go out the families of the crew. They're probably just now starting to find out who is safe and who is missing.
Guys, until we know more facts, we should all restrain our accusations toward the Captain.
Having been landlocked all my life the only tall ship ive ever seen or been aboard is the USS Niagara. While I never saw the Bounty, that ship has always held a special place in my heart since my childhood. Because of the massive amount of materials and labor needed to build a ship such as this, its doubtful she will be replaced. We have all lost a great treasure.
Our hope and prayers rest on the crew count being wrong, that were only looking for two crewmembers, and that they are found soon.
How long can they survive in one of those suits??
Having been landlocked all my life the only tall ship ive ever seen or been aboard is the USS Niagara. While I never saw the Bounty, that ship has always held a special place in my heart since my childhood. Because of the massive amount of materials and labor needed to build a ship such as this, its doubtful she will be replaced. We have all lost a great treasure.
Our hope and prayers rest on the crew count being wrong, that were only looking for two crewmembers, and that they are found soon.
How long can they survive in one of those suits??
CBC now reporting Captain and 1 female crew member those missing.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-hms-bounty-hurricane-sandy.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-hms-bounty-hurricane-sandy.html
Here is a link to film of Bounty easily handling 18'+ seas as were reported off the coast here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI4Jh5_woT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI4Jh5_woT0
Stunning footage of Bounty crew furling the fore-course sail. They "didn't get to finish because the fore-topmast snapped above us while we were aloft"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3uCLCablMY&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3uCLCablMY&feature=relmfu
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