Heat Exchangers - Up Close & Exposed

Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
When we bought this boat two years ago one of the things on my list was to remove and clean the heat exchanger (HX from here on). Now that my bell housing is cracked I had a good opportunity to attack this and take photos of the process.

HX's are one of those things that many boaters find mysterious but they are in fact quite simple and easy to work on, especially the cylindrical type as used on Universal and Westerbeke engines. A marine HX is very much like a cars radiator. Rather than cooling the engine antifreeze with air passing across aluminum fins, the marine HX uses raw ocean or lake water run through copper tubes. This raw water is doing, and serving, the same purpose as the air does on an auto radiator.

This is the basic anatomy of a HX. There are two sealed water loops or circuits in this tube, a fresh water side (engine antifreeze), and a raw water side (lake or ocean water):


To see inside simply remove this bolt and pull the cover plate off (this can usually be done on board if you have access and a closed seacock):


What's behind the cover plate? On this type of HX all that's there is an o-ring and rubber gasket. Be sure to have new replacements on hand before removal:


This is the most confusing part trust me! The in-coming raw water passes into quadrant #1 and makes pass #1. When it hits the end of the tube it makes a 180 degree turn and comes back for pass #2. It then hits the end of the tube again and is forced back though the HX for pass #3 where this process happens again and the raw water is finally sent out of the HX and into the wet exhaust system. In essence the raw water passes through four quadrants or quarters of the HX before leaving the HX. If you look closely you can see some eel grass and an old impeller vane. This first pass only consists of a few small diameter copper tubes so it's important to monitor temp and on an abnormal rise to use a good trouble shooting methodology and make sure it's not a blocked HX.:


This is the end I call the trouble end and it is the one I clean most often, thought eh other end can be bad too. With Universal/Westerbeke HX's the pencil zinc is almost the same width as the threads for the head. Zincs do funny things when they sacrifice themselves one of them being that they begin to flake and appear to get bigger in diameter. If the zincs are not changed often enough a few things can happen as did here.

#1 the zinc gets thin and the water pressure snaps it off the head where it remains until you remove the cap and clean it out.

#2 The zinc deteriorates, crumbles and flakes off inside the HX which can lead to plugged tubes.

#3 The zinc gets too fat and when you un-thread it the pencil zinc snaps off the head. People often assume the zinc was totally eaten but more often than not it just broke off because it went too long before being changed.

The zinc in the photo, which came out in one piece, was about eight weeks old. I change them about once every 8 weeks. The PO spent time cruising and was in many different areas, with different water/electrolysis issues, so getting to know his zinc schedule was probably tough, hence the crud. I should have pulled the cap a long time ago but my temps were running spot on. If you don't get a full zinc out it's a good idea to pull the cap and retrieve the pieces.:



Tomorrow I drop it off at the radiator shop for a cleaning then clean it up and paint it. I learned a long time ago that paying the $20.00-$30.00 for an HX cleaning is soooooo worth it. Hell I can't even buy the Rydlyme, to DIY, for what my local radiator shop charges.
 
Nov 6, 2006
9,892
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Heat Exchangers

Great stuff, Main Sail! On the Yanmars, a cover pops off (4 bolts) and the tube bundle pulls right out for cleaning. It is in a common casting with the exhaust manifold.. I did mine recently but unfortunately didn't think to do pictures. Attached shows locations but the pics have to be blown up some to read the labels..
 

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Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Thank you, I always wondered what the inside of those looked like. The work boats around here used an external pipe on each side of the bilge and a dry exhaust.
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
Inside of the rods look pretty good Maine Sail. Sometimes I've seen them fairly built up with various calcium or magnesium deposits or other precipitates. These are very clean and seem to allow free flow considering that there is some blockage from the assortment of goodies like the impellar parts and zinc pieces. This goes to show how important it is to change out impellars at least every other year although I like to do it annually weather or not it seems necessary like I've heard you say previously.

I guess that it is good you had a chance to tear into this now and would assume that your cooling will be even better.

Do you know, is the HX set up in the water heaters very similar? I've never gone into my water heater and would assume that some efficiencies could be recognized there also, but I haven't wanted to pull that out and apart since it seems to work pretty good in the summer time warmer water temps.

As usual, good pictorial representations, thanks.

Tom
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Tom—

I think the ones that usually have the calcium deposits are usually because the engine was running with a thermostat that was the wrong kind. Salt water cooled engines should have a thermostat that opens at 140˚, rather than 180˚, to help prevent mineral precipitation.
Inside of the rods look pretty good Maine Sail. Sometimes I've seen them fairly built up with various calcium or magnesium deposits or other precipitates...
 

John

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Jun 3, 2006
803
Catalina 36mkII Alameda CA
Tomorrow I drop it off at the radiator shop for a cleaning then clean it up and paint it. I learned a long time ago that paying the $20.00-$30.00 for an HX cleaning is soooooo worth it. Hell I can't even buy the Rydlyme, to DIY, for what my local radiator shop charges.
I removed and cleaned my hx about six months or a year ago. The radiator shop out here wanted to charge me about $150 to clean it, so I bought Rydlime and still have 3/4 of it left for the next time.

On another aspect of this: I've always wondered whether there wouldn't be an argument for hooking up a "T" right after the raw water inlet with a hose attached and to flush the hx with fresh water after use. I understand that this is what more careful users of outboard motors do, in effect - flush the motor with fresh water after using it in salt water. It seems to me that this would leave fresh water standing in the hx, rather than salt water. Since in the overwhelming majority of its life the hx is just sitting there unused (as the motor isn't running), wouldn't this prolong its life a lot?
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Tom—

I think the ones that usually have the calcium deposits are usually because the engine was running with a thermostat that was the wrong kind. Salt water cooled engines should have a thermostat that opens at 140˚, rather than 180˚, to help prevent mineral precipitation.
Hmmmm the Westerbeke thermostat on this engine (2800 hours) is a 180 degree.....

I know it looks clean but heat transfer can be affected by even a minimal coating on the walls of the copper so I am still going to have it cleaned. I can see light through every tube but for $20.00-$30.00, maybe less, I'd be foolish not to do this..
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
On another aspect of this: I've always wondered whether there wouldn't be an argument for hooking up a "T" right after the raw water inlet with a hose attached and to flush the hx with fresh water after use. I understand that this is what more careful users of outboard motors do, in effect - flush the motor with fresh water after using it in salt water. It seems to me that this would leave fresh water standing in the hx, rather than salt water. Since in the overwhelming majority of its life the hx is just sitting there unused (as the motor isn't running), wouldn't this prolong its life a lot?
I don't know but this one has 2800 hours of use on it and five years time and you can see how it looks. I think it's probably more important to change the zinc.. I've yet to see one wear out from corrosion that had been protected by a zinc..
 
Feb 4, 2005
524
Catalina C-30 Mattituck, NY
Thanks for posting Maine! I find your regular posts more interesting than some of the stuff published in many of the popular sailing pubs!

- Rob
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Maine Sail—

IIIRC, the saltwater precipitates that cause most of the clogging start forming at about 148-150˚F. That's why having a lower thermostat temp is critical. However, this is mainly of importance on raw water cooled engines, more so than fresh water cooled ones with a heat exchanger. If you have sufficient water flow through the heat exchanger, the outgoing water should only be about 15˚ warmer than when it came into the engine. If that isn't the case, you've got other issues.

Given how clean your heat exchanger looks, I wouldn't go with a lower temp thermostat, since a lower temp thermostat can lead to the engine running less efficiently, due to the greater cooling effect it has on the engine.

Hmmmm the Westerbeke thermostat on this engine (2800 hours) is a 180 degree.....

I know it looks clean but heat transfer can be affected by even a minimal coating on the walls of the copper so I am still going to have it cleaned. I can see light through every tube but for $20.00-$30.00, maybe less, I'd be foolish not to do this..
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Just got back from the radiator shop

Just got back from the radiator shop and I'm glad I went. I got a whole lesson about why DEX-COOL is not a good idea. Unfortunately my 2003 Westerbeke came from the factory with DEX-COOL and has been changed regularly but it was not enough to prevent some rusty looking sludge in the HX fresh water side. Now I will also need to flush my engine and convert it to regular antifreeze. Sometimes newer is not always better..?

DEX-COOL Class Action (LINK)

DEX-COOL Class Action (LINK)

It's really good to still live in a city where we actually still have a few specialty shops. There are not too many specialists left especially good old fashioned radiator shops who actually know their trade and take it very seriously.

So here's what I'll get for between $32.00 and $44.00..

1) Manual reaming of the copper tubes with special brushes.

2) A full 12 hour+ soak in "boil out compound" which you need to be licensed and certified to use.

3) A high pressure circulation flush, for up to three hours, with a another cleaner.

4) A neutralizing bath which, neutralizes the acids used in cleaning & brings the HX back to a neutral PH. The liquid starts out green but turns to red when it is neutral so you know it's done.

5) A complete pressure test at 60 PSI for 6 hours.

6) A full sand blasting of the entire heat exchanger!! He will make it ready for paint. To do this step alone would take me an hour or more and I make a more $$ per hour than the high side of this estimate. My time is money and Paul can do it for less...

Why go anywhere other than a professional for this?? I would gladly pay more for this level of service but I don't have too. Even at $150.00 it seems worth it..

Paul also agreed to come out in the spring and do a full engine flush and conversion back to green antifreeze..
 
Nov 18, 2006
183
Kirie Elite Elite 37 Moss Point MS
Great post Maine..........

Great post Maine Sail. I cleaned mine last year and its time to do it again as it now winter here. Just a bit of terminology here as I oversee exchanger work here at my job. You always hear boilermakers use the terms Shell side and Tube side. We do shell side hydro tests first as a ruptured tube or a bad tube fit (mechanical roll) will show water coming into the chanell box. (Chanell box being the area just outside the tubes) Then do tube side hydros, will not see water as easily but will see a drop in hydro pressure or if really bad will not be able to pump up to test pressure. Most or exchangers test at around 400 to 500 psi and some breechlocks test to 3100 psi. Thanks again Maine.
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Dex Cool

:cussing: I just got done shelling out 1800 to have the heads on my Oldsmobile van repaired from the DexCool eating away at the head gaskets then the heads and the intake manifold, the vehicle has 75k on the engine and has a warranty till 100k and the SOB's tell me that rot is not covered so I was shit outta luck and after weeks of getting jerked around I found out about the class action suit after the deadline to file
I'm on the fence about suing the warranty company in small claims court
 

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Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
:cussing: I just got done shelling out 1800 to have the heads on my Oldsmobile van repaired from the DexCool eating away at the head gaskets then the heads and the intake manifold, the vehicle has 75k on the engine and has a warranty till 100k and the SOB's tell me that rot is not covered so I was shit outta luck and after weeks of getting jerked around I found out about the class action suit after the deadline to file
I'm on the fence about suing the warranty company in small claims court
Apparently DEX-COOL is really bad stuff!! My mother had three sets of head gaskets replaced on her 1999 car including the cylinder heads once. Finally Suburu changed from DEX-COOL to another antifreeze and she has had no more problems. Suburu paid for it all..... :doh::doh: I had no idea this stuff was soooo toxic to engines!
 

Dan

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Jul 26, 2006
190
Hunter 420 Stamford
Wow, Maine Sail. Thanks for demystifying an important maintenance task. I'll be sure to put this one on the short list (of things I will do, as opposed to the very long list of things I could do).

I've always been nervous about the fact that I don't have an engine block zinc (Yanmar 4JH2-TE). Why would that be???? :confused:

I do have one on the shaft.

What I do, though, is clip on one of thoses zinc groupers and hang it off the side of the boat in the water. I know it's not hurting anything, and it might be doing some good.

Anyway, Happy New Year, all.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
A water filter beween the pump and engine block will catch those pieces of impeller.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
A water filter beween the pump and engine block will catch those pieces of impeller.
That chunk was from the PO. I install a new impeller every spring so that does not happen. If you don't want to change the impeller and want to put a pre-filter between the raw water pump and the HX use a screen filter designed for raw water flow as opposed to a pleated paper house hold type.. I prefer not to add any more potential leak points in my raw water circuit..

Shurflo 1" 253-321-01 (LINK)

 
Feb 26, 2004
22,770
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
As always, great material

One thing to add: even if your tubes are OK, there is almost always a big build up of salt on the intake port of the HX from the raw water pump. This is because it's where the salt "drops out" when the cold water hits the hot HX. We have seen build up in that port that literally almost clogs it completely, on both our old 2 inch HX and our newer 3 inch HX on our M25 engine. So, even if you have the tubes cleaned, also bear in mind that this entry port needs to be examined regularly, at least once a year, in addition to Maine Sail's excellent observations and recommendations.