FREE BOAT, SCENE ONE-ACT ONE-WITH PICS!!!!

[sailormanbigd]

CHAINPLATES

I HAVE LOOKED AT THE CHAIN PLATES, it has three on each side and on in back. Theye are mearly straps of stainless steel. About 2-1/2 inches wide by about 18 inches long and roughly 3/16 thick. They are bolted through the hull. The only thing i will change is to add stainless backing plates to them.They currently just have washers. They look and feel solid. I can move the upper porthion by pushing and pulling on the shrouds, but the part attached to the hull don't move. H Hey Letterman, I have emailed the guy with the 40 westerbeak diesel engine twice and have not gotton a reply, guess i will call him. The current motor is a 23 hp diesel-perkins i think the po said. Don;t know the condition of it prior to flooding? will ask him today. Maybe I can fog the cylinders, change the oil, and it might crank? That would be even sweeter to have a working diesel in her belly. Then i wouldn't have to spend more money. Maybe i can remove it and rebuild it? i have four or five books on marine diesel upkeep and repair. Was studying in hopes that when i get a boat that uses one, i would have some idea. aLSO, thought maybe i would be diesel repairman to support my cruising habit, kindof gave that up though, I'm 6'4" and some of them compartments are tiny and most are dirty and stinky.the po did say that there were times when he felt the engine wasn't powerful enough, and wanted more. Do bigger motors burn less fuel since they arent working as hard? Is extra horsepower/extra weigh an issue with a boat this size? I know a guy that has a 50hp in his 33oi. Well, today i will get more rotten wood-floor grid system- out of the boat and build some more temp bulkheads, and scrape barrnicles off the keel. I would like to hoist the mainsail today. I need to replace the mainsheet line for sure, just hope the halyiards are good enough. Hav'nt handed them yet. I have turned the main sheeting winches and they turn but alittle sluggish, have books that tell how to clean and rebuild them. When i was a kid i used to tkae things apart to see how they work-when they were broken already, learned alot and had fun with it. hey the boat is very big inside, if i could figure out how to get it through the companionway i might like a sofa and lazyboy rfecliner down there!gonna take some tunes along this am, as well as my circular saw-had to rip plywood with my little jigsaw yesterday. i spent 53$ at lowes yesterday. Tonight i will add up exspenses to date on the "FREE BOAT". Where is the guy with all the boat stuff from chainsawed boats? could use anything, line, spare anchor, engine, electronics, systems, wood, wood, and more wood, has to be cheep though. I had to cash in my vacation time for christmas presents this year. One important reason for this free boat is to get my sons involved with the rebuild. They are pulling away, and doing there own thing now, and don't have much time for dad, when there over to my house they are bored most of the time, i mostly hear from them when they want something-mostly money or help with some repair. So, this boat is big enough i can put the boys on a project and let them have at it. The middle boy-Jesse, said he hates scrapeing the bottom. My oldest is 22 and has'nt worked in over a year, he smokes pot and fails the drug screen, but is too cool to quit in favor of a job.he crashes at his girlfriends or at my ex's, his girlfriend buys his cigs and feeds him I guess. Have a good day all. Patrick

 

[Ross]

I think that i am getting a picture of what this

boat will be like in three years. And it ain't very pretty.

 

[Ross]

I think that i am getting a picture of what this

boat will be like in three years. And it ain't very pretty.

 

[Ross]

I think that i am getting a picture of what this

boat will be like in three years. And it ain't very pretty.

 

[Ross]

I think that i am getting a picture of what this

boat will be like in three years. And it ain't very pretty.

 

[Stillraining]

I think if you

would have been that candid about your purposes up front you would not have gotten so much flack. Sounds like a great Idea now.Edit: Just remember this is your dream right now not theirs, somehow you will have to figure out how to make it theirs also. You don't want a slave ship. But I admire you for trying. Way to go Dad!!

 

[Stillraining]

I think if you

would have been that candid about your purposes up front you would not have gotten so much flack. Sounds like a great Idea now.Edit: Just remember this is your dream right now not theirs, somehow you will have to figure out how to make it theirs also. You don't want a slave ship. But I admire you for trying. Way to go Dad!!

 

[Stillraining]

I think if you

would have been that candid about your purposes up front you would not have gotten so much flack. Sounds like a great Idea now.Edit: Just remember this is your dream right now not theirs, somehow you will have to figure out how to make it theirs also. You don't want a slave ship. But I admire you for trying. Way to go Dad!!

 

[Stillraining]

I think if you

would have been that candid about your purposes up front you would not have gotten so much flack. Sounds like a great Idea now.Edit: Just remember this is your dream right now not theirs, somehow you will have to figure out how to make it theirs also. You don't want a slave ship. But I admire you for trying. Way to go Dad!!

 

[Jim]

She lloks like she'll be pretty

when she is fixed upped.Gook Luck, Scott is right about a title and lein search on the boat!Make sure the PO owns it out right otherwise you going to court! The marina or government could have a lien against the boat.

 

[Jim]

She lloks like she'll be pretty

when she is fixed upped.Gook Luck, Scott is right about a title and lein search on the boat!Make sure the PO owns it out right otherwise you going to court! The marina or government could have a lien against the boat.

 

[Jim]

She lloks like she'll be pretty

when she is fixed upped.Gook Luck, Scott is right about a title and lein search on the boat!Make sure the PO owns it out right otherwise you going to court! The marina or government could have a lien against the boat.

 

[Jim]

She lloks like she'll be pretty

when she is fixed upped.Gook Luck, Scott is right about a title and lein search on the boat!Make sure the PO owns it out right otherwise you going to court! The marina or government could have a lien against the boat.

 

[sailortonyb Allied Mis]

A note on your project...

I wouldnt worry too much about replacing the backing washers on the chain plates unless you contact other Morgan owners and find out if it came with backing plates instead of washers. You have way too much worktime and money to invest on this boat without having to second guess the designer and start making improvements.As for the motor, If you could repair the existing Perkins relatively cheaply, go for it. If not, I wouldnt consider anything less than a 35-40 HP for that boat. Dont kid yourself about you only needing to get in and out of a slip if you intend to do any serious cruising. You will need HP at times. Things like currents and headseas happen regularly in open water. An example would be the older Catalina 30's. They came with optional motors. If you see a Catalina 30 with a 13HP, the owner cant hardly even get rid of it unless on one of the well protected bays or lakes. Serious sailors know of this flaw and there is a reason they wont have it. As for the correct size, search the Morgan sites and the Internet to find the recommended HP. Then weight and fuel consumption will not be an issue.As for your lines, I would guess that they are all of little value and will have to be replaced. Check them closely before you raise sails. Cleaning and rebuilding winches can be risky business if you dont research the in-boat procedures. Parts can easily fall overboard." I might like a sofa and lazyboy recliner down there!" I hope you were joking when you said that. You should stick reasonably close to the original layout unless you are sure that each component (setee's, cabinets, etc) are not required for strength and stiffness."One important reason for this free boat is to get my sons involved with the rebuild. They are pulling away, and doing there own thing now, and don't have much time for dad".....this is your project , not theirs. If they want to get involved, that would be great. If not, this could be disasterous in ytour relationships. A final reminder would be that you do a heck of a lot of reading on boat repair before you attempt anything. Give yourself at least a month of heavy reading and understanding before attempting anything. On a boat , almost everything is critical.Tony B

 

[sailortonyb Allied Mis]

A note on your project...

I wouldnt worry too much about replacing the backing washers on the chain plates unless you contact other Morgan owners and find out if it came with backing plates instead of washers. You have way too much worktime and money to invest on this boat without having to second guess the designer and start making improvements.As for the motor, If you could repair the existing Perkins relatively cheaply, go for it. If not, I wouldnt consider anything less than a 35-40 HP for that boat. Dont kid yourself about you only needing to get in and out of a slip if you intend to do any serious cruising. You will need HP at times. Things like currents and headseas happen regularly in open water. An example would be the older Catalina 30's. They came with optional motors. If you see a Catalina 30 with a 13HP, the owner cant hardly even get rid of it unless on one of the well protected bays or lakes. Serious sailors know of this flaw and there is a reason they wont have it. As for the correct size, search the Morgan sites and the Internet to find the recommended HP. Then weight and fuel consumption will not be an issue.As for your lines, I would guess that they are all of little value and will have to be replaced. Check them closely before you raise sails. Cleaning and rebuilding winches can be risky business if you dont research the in-boat procedures. Parts can easily fall overboard." I might like a sofa and lazyboy recliner down there!" I hope you were joking when you said that. You should stick reasonably close to the original layout unless you are sure that each component (setee's, cabinets, etc) are not required for strength and stiffness."One important reason for this free boat is to get my sons involved with the rebuild. They are pulling away, and doing there own thing now, and don't have much time for dad".....this is your project , not theirs. If they want to get involved, that would be great. If not, this could be disasterous in ytour relationships. A final reminder would be that you do a heck of a lot of reading on boat repair before you attempt anything. Give yourself at least a month of heavy reading and understanding before attempting anything. On a boat , almost everything is critical.Tony B

 

[sailortonyb Allied Mis]

A note on your project...

I wouldnt worry too much about replacing the backing washers on the chain plates unless you contact other Morgan owners and find out if it came with backing plates instead of washers. You have way too much worktime and money to invest on this boat without having to second guess the designer and start making improvements.As for the motor, If you could repair the existing Perkins relatively cheaply, go for it. If not, I wouldnt consider anything less than a 35-40 HP for that boat. Dont kid yourself about you only needing to get in and out of a slip if you intend to do any serious cruising. You will need HP at times. Things like currents and headseas happen regularly in open water. An example would be the older Catalina 30's. They came with optional motors. If you see a Catalina 30 with a 13HP, the owner cant hardly even get rid of it unless on one of the well protected bays or lakes. Serious sailors know of this flaw and there is a reason they wont have it. As for the correct size, search the Morgan sites and the Internet to find the recommended HP. Then weight and fuel consumption will not be an issue.As for your lines, I would guess that they are all of little value and will have to be replaced. Check them closely before you raise sails. Cleaning and rebuilding winches can be risky business if you dont research the in-boat procedures. Parts can easily fall overboard." I might like a sofa and lazyboy recliner down there!" I hope you were joking when you said that. You should stick reasonably close to the original layout unless you are sure that each component (setee's, cabinets, etc) are not required for strength and stiffness."One important reason for this free boat is to get my sons involved with the rebuild. They are pulling away, and doing there own thing now, and don't have much time for dad".....this is your project , not theirs. If they want to get involved, that would be great. If not, this could be disasterous in ytour relationships. A final reminder would be that you do a heck of a lot of reading on boat repair before you attempt anything. Give yourself at least a month of heavy reading and understanding before attempting anything. On a boat , almost everything is critical.Tony B

 

[sailortonyb Allied Mis]

A note on your project...

I wouldnt worry too much about replacing the backing washers on the chain plates unless you contact other Morgan owners and find out if it came with backing plates instead of washers. You have way too much worktime and money to invest on this boat without having to second guess the designer and start making improvements.As for the motor, If you could repair the existing Perkins relatively cheaply, go for it. If not, I wouldnt consider anything less than a 35-40 HP for that boat. Dont kid yourself about you only needing to get in and out of a slip if you intend to do any serious cruising. You will need HP at times. Things like currents and headseas happen regularly in open water. An example would be the older Catalina 30's. They came with optional motors. If you see a Catalina 30 with a 13HP, the owner cant hardly even get rid of it unless on one of the well protected bays or lakes. Serious sailors know of this flaw and there is a reason they wont have it. As for the correct size, search the Morgan sites and the Internet to find the recommended HP. Then weight and fuel consumption will not be an issue.As for your lines, I would guess that they are all of little value and will have to be replaced. Check them closely before you raise sails. Cleaning and rebuilding winches can be risky business if you dont research the in-boat procedures. Parts can easily fall overboard." I might like a sofa and lazyboy recliner down there!" I hope you were joking when you said that. You should stick reasonably close to the original layout unless you are sure that each component (setee's, cabinets, etc) are not required for strength and stiffness."One important reason for this free boat is to get my sons involved with the rebuild. They are pulling away, and doing there own thing now, and don't have much time for dad".....this is your project , not theirs. If they want to get involved, that would be great. If not, this could be disasterous in ytour relationships. A final reminder would be that you do a heck of a lot of reading on boat repair before you attempt anything. Give yourself at least a month of heavy reading and understanding before attempting anything. On a boat , almost everything is critical.Tony B

 

[professor bills]

Thought mine was a project

but good luck with your project. I just put a 27' Hunter back in the water after a couple of years of fiddling with it. I still have alot of work to do but she is useable now. I had to rebuild the engine replace a lot of wood in the cabin and I still need to re paint or gel areas of the topside. I agree with the posts that say do NOT make any major modifications. I learned that the hard way froma 16' go fast project. Sometimes the silliest little change messes the boat's integrity in serious ways. (I split the hull and sunk that boat) So stick with the original layout clean her up replace all your wiring and lines and you will have a blast and spent more money than you thought you would. But when you hit the open water and raise the sails it's a rush.

 

[professor bills]

Thought mine was a project

but good luck with your project. I just put a 27' Hunter back in the water after a couple of years of fiddling with it. I still have alot of work to do but she is useable now. I had to rebuild the engine replace a lot of wood in the cabin and I still need to re paint or gel areas of the topside. I agree with the posts that say do NOT make any major modifications. I learned that the hard way froma 16' go fast project. Sometimes the silliest little change messes the boat's integrity in serious ways. (I split the hull and sunk that boat) So stick with the original layout clean her up replace all your wiring and lines and you will have a blast and spent more money than you thought you would. But when you hit the open water and raise the sails it's a rush.

 

[professor bills]

Thought mine was a project

but good luck with your project. I just put a 27' Hunter back in the water after a couple of years of fiddling with it. I still have alot of work to do but she is useable now. I had to rebuild the engine replace a lot of wood in the cabin and I still need to re paint or gel areas of the topside. I agree with the posts that say do NOT make any major modifications. I learned that the hard way froma 16' go fast project. Sometimes the silliest little change messes the boat's integrity in serious ways. (I split the hull and sunk that boat) So stick with the original layout clean her up replace all your wiring and lines and you will have a blast and spent more money than you thought you would. But when you hit the open water and raise the sails it's a rush.