Flying a Geniker with roller furling

Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
Let's see the hookups for your geniker with roller furling.
 
Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
Sorry, what I mean is I have the genoa on a roller furler. I need a setup for the geniker inside of that.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,059
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Sorry, what I mean is I have the genoa on a roller furler. I need a setup for the geniker inside of that.
Seems we've got a misnomer goin' on. Sounds as if you're looking to rig a staysail or storm sail?
A gennaker is usually rigged forward of the furler/forestay.
 
Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
Seems we've got a misnomer goin' on. Sounds as if you're looking to rig a staysail or storm sail?
No, I am trying to figure out how to fly my Geniker with the Genoa rolled up without running over the Genoa and Genoa sheets.
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
You need a pole sticking about 2 feet in front of the furler drum. The halyard should be in front of the head stay. The sheet should be 2 x boat length. Usually you should deploy the geniker behind the Genoa before furling in.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
What sail are you trying to fly and when?

A cruising asym or a true geniker ? A geniker is a close reaching sail, most often found on light racy boats with non-overlapping headsails. Most bang for the buck there. Most heavy cruisers do just as well with a big genoa. Both a geniker and an asym can be flown off rolling devices if desired. Rolling asyms on smaller boats like yours are really not worth the trouble and expense.

Both should be flown in front of the forestay. In general far enough forward so the sail does not mess with the pulpit. Farther forward makes the sail more efficient and easier to gibe.

Here's a Geniker (a code 1 actually) moving us at 5+ knots in 5 knots of breeze.

 
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Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
What sail are you trying to fly and when?

A cruising asym or a true geniker ? A geniker is a close reaching sail, most often found on light racy boats with non-overlapping headsails. Most bang for the buck there. Most heavy cruisers do just as well with a big genoa. Both a geniker and an asym can be flown off rolling devices if desired. Rolling asyms on smaller boats like yours are really not worth the trouble and expense.

Both should be flown in front of the forestay. In general far enough forward so the sail does not mess with the pulpit. Farther forward makes the sail more efficient and easier to gibe.

Here's a Geniker (a code 1 actually) moving us at 5+ knots in 5 knots of breeze.

I have a Catalina 30 with a 135 genoa and a geniker that is not setup yet.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,059
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Here's a Geniker (a code 1 actually) moving us at 5+ knots in 5 knots of breeze.
Looks like you fly that sail with the sheets led between the forestay and the code 1, ergo, you gybe between?
 
Jan 24, 2009
450
1981 Cherubini Hunter 27 Shipwright Harbor Marina, MD
Most heavy cruisers do just as well with a big genoa.
This is similar to the situation I'm in - I went to a new 150 on a roller furler and have now rarely used the gennaker that came with the boat when I bought it. The gennaker is attached to a bridle that gets it up over the pulpit, but not out in front (possibly could be now that I'm thinking about it, I just didn't know to do it that way). Tacking is a hassle because I need to dowse it, pull it over to the other side and then run it back up, so I've gotten out of the habit of using it. Possibly on a long run somewhere it would be worth the bother, but I don't get those much on the river.
Yes, technically it should be in front of the jib, but it works(-ish) the way it is rigged. I would go to some sort of roller furler on a bowsprit, but that's down the list somewhere at this point.
Short answer is that as a cruiser I've done it, but since I've gone to the new genoa on a furler, I rarely use the gennaker because of the hassle of it all.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Looks like you fly that sail with the sheets led between the forestay and the code 1, ergo, you gybe between?
Correct, if your spin is mounted far enough in front of your forestay, you can do an inside gibe. If its closer you have to do an outside one, or roll and unroll if its on a roller.
 
Aug 1, 2011
3,972
Catalina 270 255 Wabamun. Welcome to the marina
Here's a Geniker (a code 1 actually) moving us at 5+ knots in 5 knots of breeze.
Gee, that looks a lot like ours. Ray driving, the admiral reading, and me wandering around looking for things to video. :)
 
Jun 8, 2004
2,945
Catalina 320 Dana Point
On Catalinas without a bowsprit it's common to put a small block on the tack line which is then shackled to the anchor roller. The problem then is interference between tack line and bow pulpit, with a device like the Tacker from ATN the tack is attached to forestay around the furled headsail. The tack line can then be lead inside the pulpit and doesn't interfere.
http://www.atninc.com/atn-tacker-sailing-equipment.shtml
 
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Oct 5, 2010
322
Catalina 30 mkII St. Augustine
justsomeguy said:
Lookin' good. How easily does that Tacker slide up and down your furled foresail? I love my parrel beads.
Very easy. I would say no problems.