I was out Saturday for the first outing in my O'Day 23 (ZigZag not my choice but to much badluck involved in changing her name). Beautiful 80 F, 10 kts wind, 72 F water. Everything went well but I have a few questions: 1) How much heeling can she take before capsizing? 2) If we do capsize will she float? I don't see any foam if the area I have access to. Tx for your help Yves
First outing with my new old O'Day 23
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capsize ever. You might "broach" her if you overpower the rig. If you do lay the sails in the water she ought to come to weather as she pops back up. She is a ballasted keel boat isn't she? By the by: ZigZag is a perfectly good name as it is the nick-name of my four year old grandson Zach whose initials are Z.A.G. He always pops back up when he capsizes. Enjoy your new boat the 23 O'day is a thing of beauty. Mike Pittepat, Lake Huron
capsize ever. You might "broach" her if you overpower the rig. If you do lay the sails in the water she ought to come to weather as she pops back up. She is a ballasted keel boat isn't she? By the by: ZigZag is a perfectly good name as it is the nick-name of my four year old grandson Zach whose initials are Z.A.G. He always pops back up when he capsizes. Enjoy your new boat the 23 O'day is a thing of beauty. Mike Pittepat, Lake Huron
Lots of floatation
Odays are well-known for their safe designs, which include lots of foam floation in the event the boat gets water-logged. The foam is usually styrofoam boards and is built into the hull. It's usually packed underneath the v-berth and cockpit sole. For example, I removed the plywood partition that separated the cockpit lazarette from the space under the cockpit (was rotted out). The space under the floor was completely packed with long styrofoam boards. Same was true of the v-berth. I agree with Mike about capsizing - she shouldn't capsize in any condition that you'd reasonable be out in. I don't thing heeling over is going to cause a capsize. By the way, being over that far really isn't an effcient way to sail, but it sure can be fun! Different model, but if I put my 22 over really hard (rail under), she would spin up into the wind. Oday's are not speedsters, but are very safe and predictable. Have fun! Brad
Odays are well-known for their safe designs, which include lots of foam floation in the event the boat gets water-logged. The foam is usually styrofoam boards and is built into the hull. It's usually packed underneath the v-berth and cockpit sole. For example, I removed the plywood partition that separated the cockpit lazarette from the space under the cockpit (was rotted out). The space under the floor was completely packed with long styrofoam boards. Same was true of the v-berth. I agree with Mike about capsizing - she shouldn't capsize in any condition that you'd reasonable be out in. I don't thing heeling over is going to cause a capsize. By the way, being over that far really isn't an effcient way to sail, but it sure can be fun! Different model, but if I put my 22 over really hard (rail under), she would spin up into the wind. Oday's are not speedsters, but are very safe and predictable. Have fun! Brad
a tender boat
The Oday 23 is a tender boat; she will heel more than a true fin keel or full keel boat. This is because the ballast is carried somewhat higher in the keel in order to allow for trailerability and a shallow draft. That being said, the boat does have about 1200 lbs. of ballast in the keel and she will not be pushed over without a lot of wind and some strong waves. I have had my 23 out in 25+ knots of wind; with a reef in the main, we were heeling 25 degrees, but in control. Not comfortable, but still safe. Brad's post refers to styrofoam floatation; my boat (1979 Oday 23) has none. Maybe some of the older or newer models do. Enjoy your boat; she's a beauty.
The Oday 23 is a tender boat; she will heel more than a true fin keel or full keel boat. This is because the ballast is carried somewhat higher in the keel in order to allow for trailerability and a shallow draft. That being said, the boat does have about 1200 lbs. of ballast in the keel and she will not be pushed over without a lot of wind and some strong waves. I have had my 23 out in 25+ knots of wind; with a reef in the main, we were heeling 25 degrees, but in control. Not comfortable, but still safe. Brad's post refers to styrofoam floatation; my boat (1979 Oday 23) has none. Maybe some of the older or newer models do. Enjoy your boat; she's a beauty.
very tender
Don't know about the earlier versions but my 1981 23 is VERY tender in the first 10-15 degrees of heel. She will harden up after that as the sails spill and the keel comes higher. I've had the rail in the water before but I can't hold it there as the weather helm takes over and she rounds up. I normally try to keep it less than 20 degrees as anything more beomes inefficient. BTW, the only foam on this boat is around the built-in cooler and that isn't anywhere near enough to keep her afloat. Russ
Don't know about the earlier versions but my 1981 23 is VERY tender in the first 10-15 degrees of heel. She will harden up after that as the sails spill and the keel comes higher. I've had the rail in the water before but I can't hold it there as the weather helm takes over and she rounds up. I normally try to keep it less than 20 degrees as anything more beomes inefficient. BTW, the only foam on this boat is around the built-in cooler and that isn't anywhere near enough to keep her afloat. Russ
Mark
Yves, I've sailed our 1972 Oday 23 in some 10-24 knots winds here on the Great Lakes. she's heels over 20 degress or more and I've dipped the rail in the water on several occassions. She does like to round up, adventurous with wife and family aboard but fun boat to sail any day! NO foam on my boat either except around the ice box. Mark
Yves, I've sailed our 1972 Oday 23 in some 10-24 knots winds here on the Great Lakes. she's heels over 20 degress or more and I've dipped the rail in the water on several occassions. She does like to round up, adventurous with wife and family aboard but fun boat to sail any day! NO foam on my boat either except around the ice box. Mark
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