First Boat- O'Day 192?

[adbk710]

I love mine. I use hank on 110% jib. She sails best on a reach, and in light air I can beat Catalina 22s and Beneteau First 235 off the wind. She doesn't point too terribly well compared to some boat, but well enough. There are a couple others 192s on our lake, and I can walk away from most, including one set up with a furling 135% genoa. I don't want to bother putting sail track down the side decks, so I just keep on with my 110%. Some track on the cabin top would help with jib twist. I wish it had a traveller, but the only real option is a custom transom mount bridge over the tiller, which would make climbing in on the swim ladder more difficult. Mine points higher on port tack because the boom gets pulled slightly more to port by the offset backstay. I rigged an adjustable topping lift so I can vang sheet, and sometimes in light air I will get twist set between topping lift and vang, and then pull the boom slightly over the centerline as if I had a traveler, in order to point a few degrees higher, say to clear a headland without having to throw in an extra tack. I've slept and cooked on mine plenty with a 1 burner butane stove like they use for buffet omelets, and a SS grill I clamp in a janky way to the aft cockpit handles. I love my little 192.

Thanks for the advice, Brian! Boats in the water and I’m just starting to acclimate myself to it, haven’t sailed yet! I have a question for you about attaching the mast, and maybe I should start a different thread but I’ll just ask here first.

The directions on the original manual (which I have) say “put the gooseneck into the gooseneck fitting on the mast.” This part is simple. But, once you do this, the boom just slide to the bottom of the mast, and there’s no way to secure it to the mast. The next direction is “attach with the provided bolt.” Very vague, and there’s no bolt in sight. Then it says “secure the aft end of the boom to the toppinglift pigtail on the backstay.” Which makes sense, simple. But now the boom is sitting in a position where the aft end of the boom is higher up than the forward end, which is just resting at the bottom of the mast.

I spoke with the PO and he told me that there’s no more pieces to secure the boom to the mast, I just have to attach the mainsail and once I raise the sail, it raises the boom, and I tighten and cleat the downhaul and the boom is now lifted and evenly in place. Does this sound right to you? This may be a silly question, it just seems odd that when the sails are down the boom would rest at the bottom of the mast, and the photos in the manual don’t look like that.

Any O’day 192 owners, feel free to chime in! Thank you all so much for your help!!

 

[jpniewski]

You need one of these:

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/dav...MI7b_g-qWU4wIVEo_ICh0OrQToEAQYAiABEgKwjPD_BwE

Slide the boom up the track above the mast gate, put the stop in the track and slide it down to a few inches below where the boom normally sits with the sail up. Tighten the knob.

 

[adbk710]

Okay thanks jpniewski! That makes sense. I am planning to sail before I get one of these, the PO never used one. Will this help my sailing performance or just keep the boom at a certain height while I'm not sailing?

 

[GSBNY]

Congrats on the boat. I had considered that boat but ended up buying a 192 in PA since it was closer to me.

Spent the last few weeks working on it. I’ve taken everything apart and put it back together, let me know if you have any questions.

 

[rschuss]

The O'Day Mariner has a similar boom management operation. I would imagine that the sliding boom is a takeoff on the Cunningham management of the luff. On the Mariner, there is a provision for a line through the goose neck to control the luff tension . The mast slot also required a stopper to hold the boom up. Two functions, one connection. Nice.

 

[Jgizzy31]

I agree with some of the posts above, if you plan on staying on the boat over night i would look into a 222. My wife and i have stayed on the boat for full weeks very comfortably in terms of sleeping, not so comfy in terms of living due to low cabin heights. We can launch our boat in very little water, and sail it often on a tiny inland lake with an average depth of 8' just for fun. It trailers well and handle the great lakes on calm to medium days well. Ours is set up for more of cruising with a roller furler, Boom jack, new outboard, tiller clutch etc. which all adds to set up time (approx 2 hours) but we keep the boat in the water for long durations. If you plan on doing more day trip where you take it off the water the same you drop i would say lean towards something smaller or a basic 222. But buy a boat to do what you plan on doing the most of, or something that will last you awhile based on your wants, itd be a shame to buy the 192 to find out you love doing overnighters and its too small to accommodate and have to sell it to go bigger. Thats the pickle im in the with 222 is we want a cruiser but this boat just inst it.

 

[rschuss]

I owned an O'Day Mariner for 35 years; and the 192 is sort of the same for inside configurations. So I moved to the 222 because it's easily trailered; I don't have to crawl on my hands and knees to move around in the cabin; and there is a little table, alcohol stove and sink to prepare meals on. But, I mostly cruise by myself with friends in their own 22 footers. For sanitary reasons, two folks on a cruise is a challenge. I would suggest netting in the V area for stowage and potty use; and sleeping in the quarter births. I found that the potty will last only about 5 days; so I limit my sojourns to that length of time. Roller furling keeps the sail out of the cabin and really makes controlling the jib easy. The northern Chesapeake is my sailing grounds.

 

[Brian S]

Thanks for the advice, Brian! Boats in the water and I’m just starting to acclimate myself to it, haven’t sailed yet! I have a question for you about attaching the mast, and maybe I should start a different thread but I’ll just ask here first.

The directions on the original manual (which I have) say “put the gooseneck into the gooseneck fitting on the mast.” This part is simple. But, once you do this, the boom just slide to the bottom of the mast, and there’s no way to secure it to the mast. The next direction is “attach with the provided bolt.” Very vague, and there’s no bolt in sight. Then it says “secure the aft end of the boom to the toppinglift pigtail on the backstay.” Which makes sense, simple. But now the boom is sitting in a position where the aft end of the boom is higher up than the forward end, which is just resting at the bottom of the mast.

I spoke with the PO and he told me that there’s no more pieces to secure the boom to the mast, I just have to attach the mainsail and once I raise the sail, it raises the boom, and I tighten and cleat the downhaul and the boom is now lifted and evenly in place. Does this sound right to you? This may be a silly question, it just seems odd that when the sails are down the boom would rest at the bottom of the mast, and the photos in the manual don’t look like that.

Any O’day 192 owners, feel free to chime in! Thank you all so much for your help!!

Yes, you should use a sail stop under the gooseneck to prevent it falling all the way down the mast slot. My main is on slugs, so I use a Mast Gate to cover the opening. Make sure after you hoist the main to loosen and move the sail stop down, so that you can also use your downhaul to tighten the luff, moving the point of maximum draft forward. For an old whupped sail, this really won't do anything, but on a new sail that takes shape, it will help reduce heeling in windier conditions, because the wind blows the point of max draft back.