Engine Oil Drain

Nov 16, 2012
1,053
Catalina 310, 2000, #31 31 Santa Cruz
I feel a little silly asking this, but is draining the engine oil on the M25XPB really as easy as uncapping the tube at the front starboard side of the engine and not making a mess? Either draining into a pan or sucking out of the tube should work. Seems too easy.
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Feb 26, 2004
22,786
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
If the hose goes to the bottom of the oil pan underneath the engine, then YES! Not so hard. Easier to suck it out than drain into a pan, 'cuz it's hard to make the pan work without getting the outside of the hose all covered with oil. I cobbled together a hose fitting on the end of the hose from my hand pump that fits into that oil drain hose, works great.
 
Nov 26, 2012
1,653
Hunter 34 Berkeley
If you suck it out run the engine first so that the oil is hot and less viscous. Also, be sure not to swallow any of it and a breath mint afterwards helps a lot.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,786
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
If you suck it out run the engine first so that the oil is hot and less viscous.
Good advice, but don't run the engine more than about ten minutes or else the oil is scalding hot. I use a pot holder on the hand pump we use so I don't burn my hand. There are also many different brands of oil removal kits. Check Maine Sail's website, he touts one particular one.
 
Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
I feel a little silly asking this, but is draining the engine oil on the M25XPB really as easy as uncapping the tube at the front starboard side of the engine and not making a mess? Either draining into a pan or sucking out of the tube should work. Seems too easy.
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Yup, I used to have an vacuum extractor like the one you get from West Marine or Defender. Worked great but just too big for cruising. So now I just use cheap drill pumps I buy on eBay for about $2 each. I get about 3 oil changes out of each pump.

I run the engine for 10 minutes. Pump out the oil, then put the end of the tube in a zip lock baggie with an oil pad or paper towel in the bag then put the bag with the tube down as low as you can get it in the bilge to gravity drain the rest of the oil.

Good luck

Jesse
 
Oct 3, 2011
827
Anam Cara Catalina 310 Hull #155 155 Lake Erie/Catawba Island
We use a vacuum extractor that after we run the engine a few minutes, we stick into the oil dip stick hole and our extractor shows how much oil we have taken out. Easy process and saves cash.
 

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Oct 22, 2014
21,207
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Well your thread motivated me to change the oil on my 4107 Perkins. Sucked the sludge up the dip stick tube. Still messy project. Biggest challenge was the filter. Difficult place to get a container under the filter housing to capure the oil that spilled as I loosened the bolt holding the filter container.
Success was had. Old oil was recycled. New oil was poured into engine. When I started the engine she seemed to purr a little sweeter.
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
Loosen the oil filter and then put a ziplock bag over it before spinning it out. "Most" of the oil goes into the ziplock bag. Only Work for spin on oil filter.
 
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Oct 3, 2011
827
Anam Cara Catalina 310 Hull #155 155 Lake Erie/Catawba Island
Good idea with the ziplock bag or plastic grocery store bag or cut a plastic EMPTY gallon milk jug apart and stick the bottom part underneath. I also use that trick for putting around winches After cutting a hole in the bottom to put over the wince to contain parts and drips of oil/grease etc.
 
Nov 16, 2012
1,053
Catalina 310, 2000, #31 31 Santa Cruz
Did it today. The oil/filter change went well. Easy to suck it out the drain tube, especially if I kept pausing a minute or so to let more oil drain to the bottom. I held a loaf pan under the filter, but I think I'll use a baggie next time. Interestingly, it only took 3 quarts to fill it (spec is 4) even with adding a bit after running for a few minutes. Not sure if there's a quart left behind somewhere, or what. I'll check it again soon and be sure it's ok.

Also did the transmission. Someone mentioned putting a loaf pan under the drain plug; that didn't work at all for me. Only a few inches of clearance, so pulling the pan out dumped 1/2 of the fluid. Luckily I had oil pads there!! Next time I'll just suck it out the top. The old fluid looked real clean; I read somewhere that that tranny runs hot and can cook oil, but not this time.

Lots of weird contortions to get to everything. The hot tub is going to feel very good tonight, especially with a cold beer!!
 
Oct 3, 2011
827
Anam Cara Catalina 310 Hull #155 155 Lake Erie/Catawba Island
We had no idea how many hours were on the trans when we got the boat so we changed it this year.
I followed someones advice and got the Hopkins tool to prevent spills. Our old fluid looked clean also-just re-assuring!
I agree with the contortions and Beer!
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,786
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
it only took 3 quarts to fill it (spec is 4) even with adding a bit after running for a few minutes. Not sure if there's a quart left behind somewhere, or what. I'll check it again soon and be sure it's ok.
Always like that for me and hundreds if not thousands before you.

Next time I'll just suck it out the top.
Yes, our experience as well.

Try not to reinvent the wheel. That's why we recommend what we do 'cuz we've BTDT.

Good work on your part. Isn't it easier than you thought it would be?
 
Oct 3, 2011
827
Anam Cara Catalina 310 Hull #155 155 Lake Erie/Catawba Island
Stu, Thanks as always for your GUIDANCE, We appreciate yours as well as Jesses'.
Our boat only took 3 quarts of oil as well.
Yes, it is easier than what I thought! and dam glad of it! :biggrin:
 
Nov 16, 2012
1,053
Catalina 310, 2000, #31 31 Santa Cruz
Stu, it was about as easy/hard as I expected, but much warmer, what with being up and close with a hot engine! I was a little confused about the volume, because I thought my WMP extractor held 4 quarts. Actually it's 2.9, so it all makes sense now. I somehow ended up with two of the WMP units, so next time I'll hopefully remember to use both, rather than having to dump it part way through.
 
Nov 16, 2012
1,053
Catalina 310, 2000, #31 31 Santa Cruz
Alan, which Hopkins tool did you use? I've got a long skinny funnel that worked well, but I'm open to better ways of doing the tranny oil.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,786
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I've got a long skinny funnel that worked well, but I'm open to better ways of doing the tranny oil.
I just use a funnel, big plastic one from the dollar store with a plastic hose stuck on the bottom of it. Lots a flexibility from above that way and easier to avoid moving the funnel over the dreaded hole while pouring.

Here's some more pointers:

Transmission Fluid 101

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6417.0.html


There are soooo many similarities in our boats that you may find these helpful, too:

"101" Series - Quick Links to "Popular" Topics includes "Electrical Systems 101"
 
Oct 3, 2011
827
Anam Cara Catalina 310 Hull #155 155 Lake Erie/Catawba Island
I went to a chain auto parts store and bought one for less than $5, it screws onto the qt of trans fluid and has a cap on the tube that leads to the spout. It is also a turn on turn off nozzle.
 
Nov 16, 2012
1,053
Catalina 310, 2000, #31 31 Santa Cruz
I just use a funnel, big plastic one from the dollar store with a plastic hose stuck on the bottom of it. Lots a flexibility from above that way and easier to avoid moving the funnel over the dreaded hole while pouring.

Here's some more pointers:

Transmission Fluid 101
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6417.0.html
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6417.0.html


There are soooo many similarities in our boats that you may find these helpful, too:

"101" Series - Quick Links to "Popular" Topics includes "Electrical Systems 101"
Stu, I have read many of those posts, and forgotten at least half of them! The problem is that sometimes I don't know what I need to know! On rainy days (like today-hope you're staying dry) I should go back and reread them, and take notes on the ones that I now know matter.
You and RC gave me so much good advice when I rewired our C27, and when we were looking to buy the C310. Very much appreciated!!
Cheers, Rob
 
Aug 2, 2009
646
Catalina 315 Muskegon
Yeah, it's a piece of cake changing the oil, particularly on the 310 where you have good access.

Tips (stuff that works for me)
1. Don't just run the engine before sucking the oil out the tube, run it until it comes up to full operating temperature. Hot. That hot, thinner oil is a lot easier to remove. Getting it up to temp while sitting in the slip can take forever, and is annoying to neighbors. I prefer to go for a little boat ride and as soon as I get back to the slip, the engine cover comes off, and all my tools and supplies are at the ready.
2. Protect your interior. Roll up the carpet. Move the cushions. That used oil from a diesel is like liquid coal. The long plastic tube that connects to the vacuum pump can slip and fling oil just about anywhere. If the tube is two pieces, use some duct tape to reinforce the joint where they meet. Have a plan in advance to handle and store that plastic tube that still has oil in it. Coil it up and put it in something so it can't uncoil and fling or drip oil.
3. Plenty of paper towels on hand, and some spray cleaner. You'll need it to clean up any goofs, and drips from the oil filter. Oil change time is a good time to do a general cleaning of the fiberglass in the engine compartment.