Does anyone have a drawing, diagram or suggestions for using the whisker pole or spinnaker pole to assist in bringing the mast down.
Thanks.
Gabriel
Thanks.
Gabriel
Dropping the mast
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I gather that you want to lower the mast aft instead of toward the bow? Why not build a Gin Pole out of wood that will fit on the front of your mast? All you would need is a mast crutch in the stern. You could build one that could attach to your stern rail. Do your stays have triangular plates for the boom bridle? I have plenty of pics that I can send you on the wood Gin Pole or the stainless steel pole.
Joe
I KNEW you'd come thru Joe!! that's exactly what i need and I remember you posting some pics a bout a year ago for someone! I'd really appreciate any pics - our lake is pretty empty now and why not pull her out n finish all the work I've started?
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I used Rbone's plans (see the archives) to make an A-frame to raise and lower the mast on my O'Day 25. It worked well. I did reinforce the top of the A with a cross beam (2x4) and used 1 inch conduit if I recall. Anyhow, the A-frame worked well. I did have a couple of people helping just to be safe. See if the link below works.
http://forums.oday.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=766124&highlight=a frame
Dave
http://forums.oday.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=766124&highlight=a frame
Dave
Gabriel,
Send me an email and I'll get up the pics and info for you.
sailtrinkka1986@verizon.net
We have a big hurricane coming our way and I plan on pulling my boat out tomorrow. I've already taken my Gennie off the fuler and stowed my boom inside the cabin with the sail on it. Tomorrow the boat is coming home with me. According to Meteorologist Joe Bastardi, this hurricane is going to be very similar to the one we had in 1954 and it's headed my way.
Joe
Gabriel,
I have been using the "A" frame on my 23 for a while and have just bought the material for the A frame on my 26. I use the same set up at the one in the past post except, I don't hook up 2 x 4, I use a snap shackle to the side stanchion. Also, I run the jib halyard to my mainsheet ( hooked to the steamhead fitting and use the sheet to raise the mast. I like this better because I can stay on the top of the boat in case something snags.
Hope this helps,
John
I have been using the "A" frame on my 23 for a while and have just bought the material for the A frame on my 26. I use the same set up at the one in the past post except, I don't hook up 2 x 4, I use a snap shackle to the side stanchion. Also, I run the jib halyard to my mainsheet ( hooked to the steamhead fitting and use the sheet to raise the mast. I like this better because I can stay on the top of the boat in case something snags.
Hope this helps,
John
This is a little late , being after Irenes visit, but I found this online, and it works like a charm : http://slowflight.net/upgrades/tips-GinPole.html
I have an Oday 25. I had to make a 4 foot trailer extension out of U-channel to get the trailer deep enough on the ramp at high tide, but that worked very well. I am going to get a piece of 2"x3"x6' 1/4" tube and do it up right --6-feet long-- when I have the time.
Back to the gin pole : we used the spinnaker halyard coming off the top of the mast - cleated it at the main halyard cleat , and tied the other end to the upper ring on the 2x4 in the pictures. The winch ratchets BOTH ways, which makes it very easy to raise and lower. You can hold it with two fingers, easily. the free end of the winch line (we used vectris) is cleated off to the bow cleat.
The 25 has 2 shrouds, upper and lower - we released the lowers completely, and loosened the uppers 4 turns . Then it was just a case of lowering the mast to the stern.
I would double up the 2x4 maybe - we had to raise the mast completely to fix a problem, and it was bending more than I liked the second time down.
Takes about a half hour to rig the first time.
I have an Oday 25. I had to make a 4 foot trailer extension out of U-channel to get the trailer deep enough on the ramp at high tide, but that worked very well. I am going to get a piece of 2"x3"x6' 1/4" tube and do it up right --6-feet long-- when I have the time.
Back to the gin pole : we used the spinnaker halyard coming off the top of the mast - cleated it at the main halyard cleat , and tied the other end to the upper ring on the 2x4 in the pictures. The winch ratchets BOTH ways, which makes it very easy to raise and lower. You can hold it with two fingers, easily. the free end of the winch line (we used vectris) is cleated off to the bow cleat.
The 25 has 2 shrouds, upper and lower - we released the lowers completely, and loosened the uppers 4 turns . Then it was just a case of lowering the mast to the stern.
I would double up the 2x4 maybe - we had to raise the mast completely to fix a problem, and it was bending more than I liked the second time down.
Takes about a half hour to rig the first time.
Years ago I gave that site to a guy in Ohio and he built one just like it for his O'Day 222 and it worked out great for him.
My friend Wayne built one using Aluminum pipe and the boat winch.
The first Gin Pole that I built for my O'Day 222 was made of oak and I made it so that it could come apart in two pieces.
Evidently you have it right down to a science for your 25. I've often wondered whether you had to mess with the stays on the 25 to raise/lower the mast from aft and now I know.
Tell me. Do you have a roller furler on your boat and does your boat have the triangular plates on the stays for mast raising with the boom? I'm curious.
Joe
Hi Joe- Yes, we do have a furler- that has to be disconnected , to kind of drag along the deck if nobody is there to "run" it. It only moves about 6 feet, so it wasn't a problem.
We do not have the plates on the mast.
Make sure you hold your shrouds and backstay in place (no twist) I turned the backstay 6 turns to be able to push the mast forward to get the forward pin out of the tabernacle, and it twisted right up - $120 later, we are good to go again.
We do not have the plates on the mast.
Make sure you hold your shrouds and backstay in place (no twist) I turned the backstay 6 turns to be able to push the mast forward to get the forward pin out of the tabernacle, and it twisted right up - $120 later, we are good to go again.
The triangular plates that I am referring to were located on the lower stays in line with the pivot point of the mast. Some of the O'Day 25s and 26s had them. The boom was used as a Gin Pole and a rope bridle was attached to the end of the boom to the plates on each side of the boat for letting the mast down over the bow using the mainsheet blocks with the rope pulled out of one sheave on each end of the mainsheet blocks.
I suppose that if you have someone to guide the furler when you raise/lower the mast, it can be done pretty easy without temporary stays.
I use pivot bridles and temporary stays with a special yoke that attach to the mast within reaching distance along with the Gin Pole.
Joe
Here are some pics of the "A" frame I put together last week. The only thing missing is the small line between the snap shackle and the eye bolt to help free up for rotation as the frame moves.
Hope this helps,
John
Hope this helps,
John
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That looks pretty simple to construct and set up on a boat. Years ago I remember talking to a salesman in West Marine who used an A frame made from spars to raise the mast on his keel stepped 24' J boat. This thing lifted the mast and allowed him to put it down through the cabin. To me that's amazing.
One of my friends owns a Pearson 23-C catboat with a free standing mast that is keel stepped. The mast is also tapered. I'm wondering how they could attach a winch to the mast to lift it without it sliding off unless they are able to attach some kind of a special long bridle with a noose to the goose neck. A rope with a "Rolling Hitch" tied around the mast would never hold without slipping.
He's been storing this boat at a local boatyard in the off season with the mast up. He has this boat up for sale right now.
Joe,
Yes, it's very easy to make, about 15 minutes and 30.00.
I've seen a bunch of raising devices, here's one for a keel stepped...
http://home.netcom.com/~greenlake/daysailer/MastRaising.html
I've never tried something like this but have used the "A" frame a number of times.
John
Yes, it's very easy to make, about 15 minutes and 30.00.
I've seen a bunch of raising devices, here's one for a keel stepped...
http://home.netcom.com/~greenlake/daysailer/MastRaising.html
I've never tried something like this but have used the "A" frame a number of times.
John
I ran across this one before while surfing the web and I think that it's a pretty ingenious set up.
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