Does it still make sense to restore old boats?

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May 27, 2012
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Oday 222 Beaver Lake, Arkansas
I traded labor for my boat so I started out the ledger on pretty good terms. But now that we have it and have used it some we would like a larger boat, something thats a real camper, stand up cabin and all that. But as a boat is a toy, and with so many other priorities, we just cant commit a great sum to it.

Taking something that has been neglected and getting it back to seaworthy condition is rewarding. Rewarding in learning the boat, in pride of the work youve done, etc.. Yes, some get so far gone its hard to justify anything other than crushing them. Some are so fungal and moldy though that it could actually make you sick, or worse, and you need to be really careful of what your getting yourself into and take necessary precautions.

A couple we knew bought an old camper that was sitting in a campground. It was real old, like 1940's. In doing some work taking out some interior paneling, the guy got into some old mouse nest crud and dusty stuff and immediately started coughing. At first it was just a cough, but then it turned into pneumonia. Then he got some kind of blood poisoning. He ended up at Mayo for several months and fought it for over a year and was doing pretty well, then it came back with a vengence and he was dead. I've seen some boats with mold growing up the walls and I dont like it. So while I would be the first to say go for it fixing up some old boat, dont get stupid. That stuff can be dealt with but you have to go in cautiously and educated. Outside of that its just work and money.
 
Oct 3, 2012
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Irwin 10/4 OK/KS
Exactly....be careful what you buy to fix up. If there are signs of mice use a ventalator. If there are signs of mold use a ventalator. Even if there are no signs of either when tearing apart something old use a ventelator. As you have no idea what type of insulation you will find. A pretty decent ventalator (mask) can be purchased at your local Lowes, Home Depot...etc for less than your co pay for the Dr visit. Have fun but be safe.
 

Squidd

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Sep 26, 2011
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AMF Alcort Paceship PY26 Washburn Wi. Apostle Islands
Agreed...way too far gone..

Has to have at least "all" the basic components to make it sailable ...

Then you have a sailable boat to use...and if you choose not to rebuild/restore...you still have a "sailable " boat to sell....

You should be able to walk away at any point (without putting money into it) at a break even resolution...

After that anything you add is glory, gravey or glimmer and is there to make "you" more comfortable/feel better...
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
Two of the three boats I have purchased for low prices ($1200 - $1600 range) were definitely in the "ready to sail" condition needing only routine maintenance and cleaning. I added to each of these each year I actively sailed them and they gave me a sense of what I wanted and what I could do.

I started with an O'Day 19 that had a swing keel. Wanting to venture more into the ocean than lakes, I found the Capri 22 with a wing keel. It is very close to ideal for the sailing my wife and I like to do.

My wife saw a Cape Dory 25 that had nice looking teak undergoing "refurbishment" and encouraged me to bid on it. But this one was not in sailing condition. It had a bad case of blistering. The electrical needs to be replaced. The plastic ports were all broken. The thru-hulls all needed replacing. Rigging both standing and running needed replacement.

Since each of the repairs is doable and the NADA "fair market value" is about $5K, the investment to bring this boat up to "sailing condition" plus some refinements and routine maintenance items will be above the $5K but not by an outrageous amount.

I have learned much about boats doing the research and practicing the needed new skills as I progress forward on this boat. We are now on year 4 and plan to finally get the boat in the water next Spring. Because the Capri 22 was in ready condition, the Cape Dory 25 repairs took second place. But now we want the extra stability that the Cape Dory will give us so I started actively working on the Cape Dory.

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So to answer your question; It is possible to economically restore an older boat to "proud owner" level.
• Most anyone can do the cleaning and basic maintenance tasks with little extra assistance.
• The more complex situations will require more skills — pre-exisiting and newly learned ones.
• Most people will not be able to do a professional full rebuild as Maine Sail's example. We simply don't have the experience.

After the work, the boat will sell for a good price giving you some return on investment. I am happy with my experiences and would repeat them again. The total I have spent on each boat is less than what many spend on a vacation trip. Enjoy your adventure!
 

jrowan

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Mar 5, 2011
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O'Day 35 Severn River, Mobjack Bay, Va.
Now thats funny.

You see muscle cars today with perfect fit panels and clear coat paints, far more perfect than they ever were new. Vintage Ferrari's today, if restored, are almost unrecognizable to the men who played with them when they were new, they are over restored. Why would fully restored boats be any different?

But then you have the survivors. The class of machines that are not no nice and perfect you cant scratch them, but which are fully safe, clean and functional, and presentable. I like those more. The semi worn blue jeans with a grease mark kind of stuff.
Hey, I appreciate that someone appreciates the experience, that yes you can indeed make money on fixing up Good O'l Boats, and while I respect my neighbor fixing his Choy Lee with rotted teak decks, man I was glad that wasn't me on my hands & knees replacing 'em! While I think you have to put a lil sweat equity into a boat to "earn it" I would still rather sail then sand.
The bottom line is a boat has to have something about it that's worth fixing.
 
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