Depth gauge vs Chartplotter

Jan 21, 2018
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Hunter P42 Ft Lauderdale
I have also been pondering these issues for a few years as my original ST50 depth display gradually dimmed. Most salespeople will tell you that you have to buy the transducer of the display manufacturer (e.g. Garmin). False. As someone mentioned above, most transducers are made by one manufacturer and the only thing that makes it a Garmin is the unique connector on the end.

I found the right salesperson at West Marine who knew what he was talking about. Start by looking for the tag on the transducer or on the cable a few inches from the transducer. The key piece of information on mine was P19. It is a standard 50/200 kHz depth transducer. The second key piece of information was that instead of trying to sell me a new transducer, this gentleman reached under the counter and pulled out the Garmin black box. This is literally a black waterproof box about 3 inches square. One side has a cable with the Garmin 12-pin connector. I believe there is also an 8-pin available. The other side has a waterproof gland for the transducer cable. I cut off the Raytheon transducer connector, fed the wire into the box, stripped the two wires plus shield and connected them to the terminal points inside the box as directed for the P19 in the manual. The manual lists dozens of transducer models and can be downloaded from the Garmin website.

The box is nothing more than a very expensive (~$70) break-out box with a 12 point terminal strip. Sort of a punishment for not buying the Garmin transducer. To do again, I would buy the 2 foot 12-pin extension cable, cut off the female end, and simply solder or crimp the three wires together.

Important tip that wasted two hours:
The manual mentions this for other models, but not the P19. The chart shows the shield connected to pin one and the temperature wire to pin two. If your transducer does not have the thermometer feature, then you have to jumper pins one and two (temp and shield), or it will not work.

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Apr 13, 2015
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Catalina 309 Port Charlotte
So...thanks to all above for your insights on this. I ended up buying a garmin gt15M in-hull transducer. (as I had no way of determining if the Ray instrument or installed Ray xducer were the fault - I didn't want to go down the road of hooking the old xducer to my chart-plotter - possibly effort for no success).

I mounted the new xducer pretty far forward (under the v-berth). easy to mount, just sand the hull a bit, clean it and then glue the included angled 'tank' down, then fill and screw in the xducer.

Now I had to run the cable all the way back to the pedestal. So I bought a 20ft extension cable along with the xducer. Getting the extension cable down from the nav-pod, through the pedestal required cutting the connector off which I was a bit leery about. anyway, it worked out fine, since at worst I was going to ruin the extension cable and not the actual xducer. I then spliced the cut end back on once the cable was run and secured. The splice was a bit tricky as the cable had a twisted pair with it's own mylar sheathing, plus 6 other wires, plus a bare wire and another mylar sheathing surrounding the whole bit. But I soldered, heat-shrunk and re-wrapped mylar sheathing and then more heat shrink to create a splice that (so far) is working fine.

I get a good depth reading on the chart-plotter and have it on all my screens. I also get the fish-finder type display if I want to see the history and the fish type echo returns (just like the in the post above from HandsOnTech).

AND....ONE MORE BIG BONUS: now the Raymarine st60 magically displays the depth again (instead of dashes) as it's interface to the chart-plotter is bi-directional and so, even though it isn't getting any signal from it's xducer (or not interpreting it), it is displaying the depth info from the chart-plotter!

so again thanks for all the help you all added above.

Dave
 
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Oct 22, 2014
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Thanks for the update Dave.
It’s a 2021 miracle.
Happy sailing.