Counting for USCG Sea Time (form CG-719) for Moorings BVI Charter

Nov 2, 2008
137
Beneteau 331 Chicago (DuSable)
Hi,
Not sure if this has ever come up. I have a USCG Master License since I do professional charter and lessons in Chicago on Lake Michigan and have to submit my sea time to the Coast Guard. Not a big deal but I just finished for the second year a great sail in BVI for 8 days on a Moorings 4800 Catamaran. Big 48 foot beast. Basically a condo on water :)

Anyway does anyone know I credit that sea time with the Coast Guard?

Thanks.....
Craig
 
Jul 29, 2004
413
Hunter 340 Lake Lanier, GA
Hi,
I just finished for the second year a great sail in BVI for 8 days on a Moorings 4800 Catamaran. Big 48 foot beast. Basically a condo on water :)

Anyway does anyone know I credit that sea time with the Coast Guard?
Craig, my experience was that as long as you have the boxes filled in and a signature, they accept the form.
 
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May 24, 2004
7,213
CC 30 South Florida
If your Master License is either Inland or Near Coastal I would check with USCG to see if they would credit time in International waters.
 
Aug 16, 2009
1,000
Hunter 1986 H31 California Yacht Marina, Chula Vista, CA
Never mind that, Ed, tell us how you liked the Cat compared to the H34
 
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Jul 29, 2004
413
Hunter 340 Lake Lanier, GA
Never mind that, Ed, tell us how you liked the Cat compared to the H34
Our H340 is a perfect boat for Lake Lanier, where it's been since commissioned by her original owner, and where we've sailed her for fifteen years. We've only chartered one catamaran, a Lagoon 420 a few years ago in the Abacos, but we have a week on a Lagoon 440 in the BVIs coming up in just a few weeks. Big boat for a big group. It was the right choice for the skinny waters of the Abacos, not sure how I will like it in the BVIs.
 
Feb 3, 2015
299
Marlow Hunter 37 Reefpoint Marina Racine, WI
We chartered a 43 Leopard this time last year, four couples total. I also wondered at the time how I'd like it. I/we loved it. It was very stable for the two non-sailing couples and it actually sailed very nicely, even pointing into the wind.
 
Feb 8, 2014
1,300
Columbia 36 Muskegon
Submit the time on CG719 just like it was your own boat. Attach a copy of the charter agreement to support it. Exactly the same as time on your own boat, you have to attach a registration or document to prove the boat was yours. The charter agreement documents it as "yours". The time would be credited as Near Coastal.
And related to that, new last year Great Lakes time qualifies for Near Coastal, so on your next renewal you may be able to upgrade to NC if you don't already have it. I just did that. There is a two part exam required, and it's a b****h. Download the list of Deck General and Nav General questions, search keywords Ice, Continuous Discharge, and Customs. Those are the ones I had trouble with. Had to take the Nav-Deck module twice. Very little Nav on it, mostly questions on customs and continuous discharge certificates.
The folks at the Toledo REC were great though. Always enjoy dealing with them.
 
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Nov 2, 2008
137
Beneteau 331 Chicago (DuSable)
Submit the time on CG719 just like it was your own boat. Attach a copy of the charter agreement to support it. Exactly the same as time on your own boat, you have to attach a registration or document to prove the boat was yours. The charter agreement documents it as "yours". The time would be credited as Near Coastal.
And related to that, new last year Great Lakes time qualifies for Near Coastal, so on your next renewal you may be able to upgrade to NC if you don't already have it. I just did that. There is a two part exam required, and it's a b****h. Download the list of Deck General and Nav General questions, search keywords Ice, Continuous Discharge, and Customs. Those are the ones I had trouble with. Had to take the Nav-Deck module twice. Very little Nav on it, mostly questions on customs and continuous discharge certificates.
The folks at the Toledo REC were great though. Always enjoy dealing with them.
 
Nov 2, 2008
137
Beneteau 331 Chicago (DuSable)
Thanks for the info and also the idea to expand to NC. I never took the test at the REC center as I went through the private route. I did call to check on my question but they did not really know and basically suggested just submitting it with whatever backup and see what happens.
 
Nov 2, 2008
137
Beneteau 331 Chicago (DuSable)
Never mind that, Ed, tell us how you liked the Cat compared to the H34
First I apologize I usually edit the thread topic when the subject branches off but I am not sure yet how to change.
Anyway I know the question on the preference of the cat was directed to Ed but I'd like to share my thoughts.

Like most on this forum, I would guess, are mono-hull sailers. In fact, I hate to admit, that I really disliked the catamarans as they did not seem so traditional. Sure not a good reason I admit. Anyway, after our first charter in BVI on a monohull it really hit me! While mono-hulls are great for experienced sailors the Cats are great for everyone, especially less experienced sailors.

We ended chartering with four couples a Moorings 4800 (Leopard 48) the end of January again in BVI. It was a massive success.
I was very worried, as I was the one that suggested this trip. The key to the success was the beautiful catamaran.

I would say I would not buy a Catamaran to own, but for a relaxing weeks of great sailing I would only charter a Cat for now on, unless it was strictly a group of dye in the wool sailors.

Anyway some benefits of a Cat:
  • Minimal heeling under sail so everyone cal walk around the huge deck and boat very comfortably
  • At mooring at night very little rocking. Which I like but many don't
  • The cabins are the only thing in the actual hulls. There were two in each huh, one forward, one aft so total privacy as no walls are shared
  • Ensuite head and separate shower per each cabin.
  • The common salon area is above water and 360 degrees of windows and the same level as the front and rear deck. So it's very conducive as a public area
  • Very fast sailing or motoring (8-9 knots)
  • Two diesels about 50HP each so super to maneuver under power
  • Three separate Air Cond systems zones if you want it. Each hull and common area are separate controls.
  • Nice genset for 120vac power
Again this is coming from a guy that hated cats but I admit it when I am wrong and probably a little more excited then I should be, but it was such a great trip.