Concealed Carry While Boating

[robertsapp]

Isn't it extremely interesting that a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution and confirmed by the Supreme Court is subject to so many rules and restrictions (in some cases contradictory) that we really don't know for sure what the hell our rights truly are in many situations or when we may be unintentionally breaking the law? Not trying to invoke a War Room type issue, I'm just making a general observation.

 

[Brian D]

So here would be an interesting question. Is the flare gun we all carry considered a weapon? It could certainly be viewed as one. It does have a trigger mechanism, a barrel, and hand grip, fires I believe 12 ga. projectiles, can cause serious bodily harm if aim and discharged at a person.

Hmmm... just curious.

 

[Jackdaw]

So here would be an interesting question. Is the flare gun we all carry considered a weapon? It could certainly be viewed as one. It does have a trigger mechanism, a barrel, and hand grip, fires I believe 12 ga. projectiles, can cause serious bodily harm if aim and discharged at a person.

Hmmm... just curious.

Nope. Most gun-limit laws I have seen specifically exclude 'guns' used primarily for signaling. Flare guns, starter pistols, etc.

 

[Merlin Clark]

Why not just ask the state agency where you plan to carry your weapon while boating?

Yeah, that would make sense.
I don't think the "the guys on the SBO forums said it was ok" defense would really carry much weight if you were in the wrong and standing in front of a judge.

 

[Roadking Larry]

Always need to know the firearms laws where you are going to be. I've seen so many people that just assume that everybodie's laws are the same as theirs.
Tons of resources on the web, just have to look for them.

 

[Ross]

The cost of defending a criminal arrest charge of any kind causes me to avoid any situation that might call for carrying a weapon.

 

[GeorgiaBII]

The cost of defending a criminal arrest charge of any kind causes me to avoid any situation that might call for carrying a weapon.

That only works if all the stars align. The idea of Carrying a weapon is the same as the boy scouts. "Be Prepared"

 

[Kermit]

Copied from the South Carolina regulations. Notice it refers to law enforcement officer. DNR officers are considered law enforcement in SC. It does not require the permit holder to actually present the weapon.

"(K) A permit holder must have his permit identification card in his possession whenever he carries a concealable weapon. When carrying a concealable weapon pursuant to Article 4 of Chapter 31 of Title 23, a permit holder must inform a law enforcement officer of the fact that he is a permit holder and present the permit identification card when an officer (1) identifies himself as a law enforcement officer and (2) requests identification or a driver's license from a permit holder."

You might want to look up the regs in the states you plan to visit. SC does honor concealed carry permits from qualified states. The document does not list which states are qualified.

 

[higgs]

I have cruised the Great Lakes extensively and frequently for 40 years. I never lock my boat when going into to town, I visit the bars in town until midnight, and sleep with the boat wide open. No gun. I have never had any hint of a problem from Lake Mich to L Ontario. Sounds like paranoia to me.

 

[Roadking Larry]

Sounds like paranoia to me

I've never had a fire but I keep extinguishers handy on the boat as well as at home.
I've never been in an automobile crash but I wear seat belts.
I also carry insurance.
I don't think that makes me paranoid.
Also I don't step off my front porch on to the boat dock nor do I hang out in bars all night (anymore). But, I do travel through areas where violent crime is not uncommon. My choice, I choose to refuse to be a victim.
To each his own.

 

[Ross]

I am 74 years on this wicked world and have moved through many neighborhoods. The only time in my life that I would have liked to have a gun and didn't would have been to put a road wounded deer down last summer.

 

[Squidd]

I like the little old lady with the three guns...

"What are you afraid of..?"

"Not a Damn Thing...."

 

[Richard Bryer]

You know, when I as a Canadian read this stuff, I wonder "why would I ever go to the US- it is so dangerous that so many people think they have to carry a gun" Then I remember I have spent many days and weeks and months in the US on business and pleasure and never once did I feel in danger. What has changed? I am with you , Higgs.

 

[Gary_H]

I have a concealed carry permit in NC and NC is also an open carry state. When approached by a LEO If I am carrying I am required to notify them as soon as possible after contact. I have no problem with notifying any officers if I have my weapon with me. I have not been hassled in any way for having it. When travelling while armed I check to see if the State I travelling through has reciprocal concealed carry agreement with NC. If they don't I either leave the gun home or most likely Don't go to that State. I usually don't feel the need to carry a weapon aboard but I have on several occasions had one on board simply because I didn't want to leave it in the car parked in the Marina parking lot for several days.

 

[RichH]

The probable objective/academic reason is the explosion of immigration in which now approaching 20-30% of the population has originated in areas of the world that has 50-200 times the homicide and violent crime rate than before this immigration. It takes a while for mixing cultures to get back to 'normal', especially when the 'drug culture' and its accompanying 'gangs' also exponentially increased with such immigration.
In most areas of the US, the crime rate is equal to extremely low rates of Scandinavia and Middle Europe ... you just have to know which areas of cities to stay out of, just like you do in the large cities of Canada.

I state this as one as a teenager who almost didnt survive a violent mugging during the
'Quebecois' uprising in Canada during the 60s, where someone wrongfully identified me as a 'boeuf de rôti'. I simply and innocently traveled into an area of Sherbrook PQ that I didnt know I shouldnt have been.

Many 'carry concealed' in the US simply because it would be intimidating and unsettling to others vis-a-vis 'open carry' when going to a shooting range, etc.
After about 40 posts of this topic, the now growing subliminal implication in this particular thread about the horrors of 'guns' is inappropriate, as 99.99% of those who have license to carry are completely lawful/legal.
I Suggest we drop the moralizing and get back to the subject .... the legal aspects and requirements of concealed or open carry when on a boat.

 

[justsomeguy]

snip-
I usually don't feel the need to carry a weapon aboard but I have on several occasions had one on board simply because I didn't want to leave it in the car parked in the Marina parking lot for several days.

Under your direct control.
+1

 

[Kermit]

I copied this from the Michigan website.

X. Responsibilities While Carrying
1. A concealed pistol licensee carrying a concealed pistol must:
? Have his or her Concealed Pistol License in possession at all times.
? Immediately disclose to a peace officer, if stopped, that he or she is carrying a concealed pistol.
? Display his or her Concealed Pistol License to a peace officer upon request.
? Display his or her driver license or Michigan personal identification card upon request.
? Not carry a concealed pistol while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance or while having an unlawful bodily alcohol content. However, a licensee who has consumed alcohol can legally transport a pistol if the pistol is in a locked trunk or locked compartment or container that is separated from the ammunition for that pistol.
? The licensee must have the Pistol Sales Record (RI-60) in his or her possession for the first 30 days after purchasing the pistol.
For more information on encounters with police, refer to the Michigan State Police's Web site at www.michigan.gov/msp.

Here's the link to the full regulation page.
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ri-012_7736_7.pdf

Hope this helps !

 

[JRacer]

As a CC holder, you may be aware of these site but I'll post them anyway: http://www.carryconcealed.net/
http://www.usacarry.com/

In KS, we don't have a requirement to inform, but I do anyway. Seems like good practice and let's the LEO know that you are up front and not a threat.

In general, I would think that the State law would apply on inland lakes. Coastal areas are trickier, I think. And, before I carried on the coast, I wold do a lot of research to understand my position. I would also be sure to have copies on board of the requirements for the areas in which I was traveling. I do that when traveling to other States in the car.

Good topic and discussion.

 

[gettinthere]

Thank you to all of you who do carry. I do not. But "they" don't know that and I like it that way.
"Is that crazy ol soma***** packin? Might be"

 

[Bob J.]

In NH you can put on your holster & openly display your firearm. You can also drive around with a firearm on your front seat, it's not concealed so no permit is needed.

I know Congress has tried to pass reciprocity to permit holders on a federal level to no avail.

I think the issue becomes if you're traveling in a state that you do not have a permit to carry in, do not conceal your firearm.

With that said, there are many states in the southern portion of the northeast & mid atlantic region where the elected officials want to take your right to have a firearm.
Of course they themselves are excluded.....