Compromise
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Tim, isn't this time of year stressful enough? Now you want us to think AND respond?!
Naaahh, love my boat and I would do it again.
Naaahh, love my boat and I would do it again.
My full keel cutter has sacrificed speed - though she is not that slow, windward performance - though she isn't horrible. The full keel means the boat needs a lot of room to turn. In return she is very comfortable at sea, is very seaworthy, and tracks extremely steady.
My 2004 Catalina 387, Hull # 33.
NO (major) Comprises!
IF, it were a woman, she would be the perfect, size, shape, and ...!
Bill
NO (major) Comprises!
IF, it were a woman, she would be the perfect, size, shape, and ...!
Bill
I just sold" Compromise" this fall, a great little O'Day mariner and am in the process of redoing a pearson 26....as you say all boats are a compromise....but ...to answer Roger Long I would say that marriage might be a casualty to sailing but not a compromise!!!!....been there!
The only thing I think I compromised on was aesthetics. I love my Oday 23; she is perfect for the way I sail. I also like the way she looks. But I love the way a traditional, CCA-inspired boat looks. However, I am quite proud of myself for the choice I made. I predicted a full keel, traditional design with lots of brightwork and age issues would not allow me to spend the maximum amount of my scarce time on the water. I didn't want to be a slave to varnish and leaky hatches, and also constantly worry about dragging my full keel across the rocks in my shallow home area. Instead, I picked a "newer" design that fulfills my real sailing needs and makes me truly happy. I have found that I don't have time to properly maintain the two handrails on the coach roof and the hatchway on my Oday. I shudder to think what my Pearson Triton would look like if I had given in to pure romance. Maybe someday I'll have the time and money to indulge; until then, I am very happy with my current "compromise".
Compromise? I guess we gave the capacity to go offshore in a comfortable way. The Bahamas and the Yucatan are still in the realm of possibilities but won't be going much farther now. The present boat is light, fast, shallow draft for gunkholing and has a great cockpit for entertaining. A/C, water heater, microwave, propane stove and oven and 12V refrigerator complete the amenities. Best coastal cruiser. What a compromise.
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I agree with: nothing. It's the boat we'd been thinking about for 10 years and we spent a complete year looking at many of them and are ecstatic that we found our particular boat. After more than ten years with her, we're still pinching ourselves.
I agree with: nothing. It's the boat we'd been thinking about for 10 years and we spent a complete year looking at many of them and are ecstatic that we found our particular boat. After more than ten years with her, we're still pinching ourselves.
Everyone makes a compromise when buying a boat. Those of you who say your boat is perfect - I gotta wonder. Aren't there times when you wish your boat was larger - or other times smaller. In 35 years of sailing I have never owned a boat that did everything wonderfully. Sometimes I wanted better windward performance and sometimes I was grateful for interior room. When an engine needed to be rebuilt I would have been grateful for an outboard, but when powering into seas, I am was sold on an inboard. A three blade prop is nice in those conditions, but when racing who wants it. Roller furling is great for daysailing, but on those occasions you race, wouldn't it be nice to hoist a #2? It is always a compromise - period.
This is bordering on a Sails Call question. Nothing... everything is a compromise. Yet I degress... I have buyers remorse in everything I purchase!
I compromised on a blue water cruiser. The coast will always be near.
I compromised on a blue water cruiser. The coast will always be near.
"Compromise" everything for what YOU want/need!
I traded up to a Mac 26X to get stand-up headroom and enough boat to stay aboard for more extended time - but also to retain the trailerability and avoid too-high a price. I can use Bossa Nova as a funny-shaped camper, anchor out with an inflatable kayak as a dinghy, and learn if I could be comfortable making a boat my home. (This one's not enough to be my house, but big enough to "play house" and find out.)
Okay, she's not as portable as an Opti, or as exciting as a Laser, or as luxurious as a Cabo Rico. But all of those are compromises, too!
Bossa Nova is not impressive, not luxurious, not racing-fast, and she won't handle "the perfect storm" at sea; but she can get to Florida from Maryland in a couple of days (on I-95), and she can be halfway to Kansas on her trailer before the storm makes landfall in Fort Lauderdale. Not too many hurricanes make it to Kansas.
Bottom line: Choose the boat that does what YOU want, and why worry about the compromises? Stack 'em your way!
With my first boat (MacGregor 19), I compromised almost everything else for ease of sailing, trailerability, liveability (or at least sleep-over-ability) and PRICE. I was really new to sailing, and she was a The only way she has "played me wrong" is in resale-ability, and I blame myself for putting her on the market this last fall. Yeah, right, sell a sailboat in November!
I traded up to a Mac 26X to get stand-up headroom and enough boat to stay aboard for more extended time - but also to retain the trailerability and avoid too-high a price. I can use Bossa Nova as a funny-shaped camper, anchor out with an inflatable kayak as a dinghy, and learn if I could be comfortable making a boat my home. (This one's not enough to be my house, but big enough to "play house" and find out.)
Okay, she's not as portable as an Opti, or as exciting as a Laser, or as luxurious as a Cabo Rico. But all of those are compromises, too!
Bossa Nova is not impressive, not luxurious, not racing-fast, and she won't handle "the perfect storm" at sea; but she can get to Florida from Maryland in a couple of days (on I-95), and she can be halfway to Kansas on her trailer before the storm makes landfall in Fort Lauderdale. Not too many hurricanes make it to Kansas.
Bottom line: Choose the boat that does what YOU want, and why worry about the compromises? Stack 'em your way!
My golf game...
I don't even think I could find my golf clubs if someone held a gun to my head.
I would do it again too. There are so many perfect boats, but for the type of sailing and our shoal rich sailing environment, my Oday 25 has very few actual compromises. She is and will continue to be our perfect first boat.
I don't even think I could find my golf clubs if someone held a gun to my head.
I would do it again too. There are so many perfect boats, but for the type of sailing and our shoal rich sailing environment, my Oday 25 has very few actual compromises. She is and will continue to be our perfect first boat.
I would say I compromised on size. Purr'n is roomy for a 23 footer w/8'6" beam, but a head with a door would be nice. I wanted a nice sailboat, but I didn't want all the additional costs of a bigger boat, dock, storage & hauling. Someday those additional costs will seem more trivial and then maybe I'll get something bigger. For now, I'll enjoy sailing Lake Erie in my little cruiser. Well... maybe not now as we have snow & ice. Did I mention she fits into my shop, so I can tinker with her all winter.
Happy Holidays,
JerryA
Happy Holidays,
JerryA
When I outfitted my boat for spinnaker & gear a year ago I compromized on the spinnaker. Instead of going for a new spinnaker, I picked up a used one from a club member. It wasn't quite the right size for the boat. I saved around $3K but at least I can now race with the "big boys". One day I will take the plunge and go for a proper sized new spinnaker.
Everything is..
Everything is a compromise! Having owned many, many boats, that were not necessarily perfect for us, this one is so far a boat that we don't feel a need to upgrade from. Sure there are things I would change but there are things I would change on a Morris, Swan, or Hinckley too.
Everything in life is a compromise to some extent, it's just a matter of how much of a compromise can you live with. The life/compromise balance is a constant battle. I love racing but I compromise my own boat and set it up for cruising as I chose cruising with family over racing my own boat. To do both race and cruise, with our boat, would compromise the cruising aspect too much for me. Thankfully the OP and other friends help me get my racing fix. This helps me feel less compromised on my own boat when I'm thinking about how much that 300 feet of chain weighs and that three blade prop slowing me down...
Life is a series of compromises. It is the delicate balance of those compromises you can live with vs. ones you can't that make it flow..
Everything is a compromise! Having owned many, many boats, that were not necessarily perfect for us, this one is so far a boat that we don't feel a need to upgrade from. Sure there are things I would change but there are things I would change on a Morris, Swan, or Hinckley too.
Everything in life is a compromise to some extent, it's just a matter of how much of a compromise can you live with. The life/compromise balance is a constant battle. I love racing but I compromise my own boat and set it up for cruising as I chose cruising with family over racing my own boat. To do both race and cruise, with our boat, would compromise the cruising aspect too much for me. Thankfully the OP and other friends help me get my racing fix. This helps me feel less compromised on my own boat when I'm thinking about how much that 300 feet of chain weighs and that three blade prop slowing me down...
Life is a series of compromises. It is the delicate balance of those compromises you can live with vs. ones you can't that make it flow..
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