http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXJpZUQc0jU
Last year I coiled but next year I am going to try braiding.
Last year I coiled but next year I am going to try braiding.
Coil Or Braid Your Dock Lines?
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I like that for dock and maybe anchor lines.
halyards and sheets I either coil or do figure 8's with.
-looks really good for tossing someone a line.
Thanks for posting!
halyards and sheets I either coil or do figure 8's with.
-looks really good for tossing someone a line.
Thanks for posting!
Daisy chaining has a whole other meaning in my neighborhood.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daisy+chain
I use chain hitching, as do most contractors, for my long electical cords. Best part you only unravel what you need.
I kept falling off the dock into the water while crawling around herding the line into a ring. I guess I'd be a canidate for "justsomeguy's" crocheting.
Merry Christmas,
Ray
Merry Christmas,
Ray
Whatever we call it, a coil can't be tossed well, will not store or transport ready to use.
I do think a coil shows the boat owner takes pride in the appearance.
If I can make the braided line look attractive on the dock, I am in. It would make for a higher trip hazzard as the line would be raised higher off the deck.
I do think a coil shows the boat owner takes pride in the appearance.
If I can make the braided line look attractive on the dock, I am in. It would make for a higher trip hazzard as the line would be raised higher off the deck.
Been using that to tie up smaller power boats for years. On a dock with a ring, push the first loop through the ring, then do what he was showing, only use two hands and it only takes seconds to tie the boat. A quick pull and you're united.
Uh....... you want to braid the line and leave it on the dock?.... I think the suggestion was to braid it so it would store in your lazerette more conveniently. A flat coil works better on the dock.
Most of us who daysail out of a docked slip will leave the dock lines in place, on the dock, and have another set in the locker for short stops away from our base. The spliced end fits over the boat cleat, the open, adjusting end is tied to the dock cleat. When you leave you simply unslip the line from the boat cleat and coil it down on the dock.... still tied to the dock cleat. When you come back the line is ready to slip back over the boat's cleat..... the length is already set. The lines are never so tight that you can't simply unslip the spliced end from the boat cleat.
If you're taking off on an overnight or extended run.... they by all means take the dock lines with you... but for short day trips... it's easier to leave rigged on the dock.
Remember that it's your dock now and no one else is going to tie their boat up at it.
I will try it for my bow line. My bow line is 25' long because I tie the boat toe the truck tie downs when launching and 25' just does it. Coiling it up on deck is alway a concern because I'm concerned about the genoa brushing it off on a tack. Hasn't happened yet but it is always a concern. It isn't long enough on the C27 to reach the prop if it does so I don't obsess about it. Chain hitching it up like that will work well. I don't know why I just don't throw it in the anchor locker.
In the aft end I still prefer to use a spring line. My 5' spring line shortens to about 2'.
In the aft end I still prefer to use a spring line. My 5' spring line shortens to about 2'.
Use to do it for the headsail sheets when taking a hanked sail down. The dock lines we leave behind usually coiled resting on a pole or flat on the deck. I can coil the line in a 1/5 of the time it would take to chain. No need for them to look purty as it is a private dock.
Not really true.
a. Throw a coil under handed with the boat-end facing towards you, such that it uncoils in the air as it unwinds. Even better, is to split the coil into 2 parts, throwing both halves; one in the right hand, the following coil in the left (with about 1/2 the distance). Done properly, a rope can easily be tossed 80% of it's length.
b. There are many coil styles. If a short little dockline is tangled, that indictates very bad technique indead. The fundamentals of good coil deployment are uncoaling in the reverse manner to which it was made, making the coil using one of several methods to prevent twist acumulation, and taking a moment to think before acting.
Yes, I know how to daisy chain--webbing daisy chains better than it coils and line washes best in daisy chains--but I really think flaking and coils work best on boats. I guess I've been coiling so long my problems are few and my speed is MUCH greater than chaining.
Better technique may be required; these skills seem simple but are subtle. Sailors and rock climbers have been coiling and throwing 160-foot lines for years.
a. Throw a coil under handed with the boat-end facing towards you, such that it uncoils in the air as it unwinds. Even better, is to split the coil into 2 parts, throwing both halves; one in the right hand, the following coil in the left (with about 1/2 the distance). Done properly, a rope can easily be tossed 80% of it's length.
b. There are many coil styles. If a short little dockline is tangled, that indictates very bad technique indead. The fundamentals of good coil deployment are uncoaling in the reverse manner to which it was made, making the coil using one of several methods to prevent twist acumulation, and taking a moment to think before acting.
Yes, I know how to daisy chain--webbing daisy chains better than it coils and line washes best in daisy chains--but I really think flaking and coils work best on boats. I guess I've been coiling so long my problems are few and my speed is MUCH greater than chaining.
Laying a coil on deck can accumulate dirt underneath, as can any line. To help get the lines off the deck, I braid them, but every 4th or so braid, I capture a stanchion or pulpit or the line itself to keep the excess line elevated. This works great on the flag halyard, securing the braid to the shroud. Almost looks like baggywrinkle.
Agree with Benny.
Daisy chaining takes more time than a 'proper' coil; plus, if one of the 'loops' ever becomes 'half undone' and you cant 'visualize' the 'half loop' you will not be able to 'slip' the chain free .... and will wind up 'un-knotting' the whole damn chain one loop at a time.
With 'rope', neatness will invariably get you into 'tangles' ... . For 'long term' storage and transportation a 'proper' coil finished or 'surrounded' with a 'few'/minimum daisy chains will keep the coils from 'interleaving' and tangling.
In the rescue service, we used 'bags' .... simply 'pushed' the line into the bag one 'push' on top of one another .... and NEVER had a tangle when 'pulling' the terminal end or attaching the terminal end to a 'fixture' and then simply throwing or dropping the bag over 'the edge' and the line would always strip-out 'perfectly'. The same can be done on a dock ... just strip the rope from your hand onto a 'pile' and just be sure the terminal end doesnt get 'interleaved' into or around a 'coil'.
There are some 'rapid-fire' techniques to 'properly' and very quickly 'coil' a rope ... not enough time to describe them. You can find such in books on 'rock climbing', etc.
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