I am planning on purchasing my first boat which looks like it will be a Cat 27. After reading many posts on here and considering local conditions and intended uses, I think I would like a tall rig with an outboard. The one thing that I have questions about is are there new outboards that will fit the well on a Cat 27? Are there different size wells between a 1973 and a 1988? If the answer to both is no, what are outboard owners doing? Answers greatly appreciated.
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Paul
most will fit however.........
As far as I know all outboards up to about 15 hp will fit. Some just won't tilt up out of the water. Most of the problems come with the new 4 stroke outboards which are larger for the same power output then a 2 stroke. My 1974 C27 is powered by a 1994 8 HP Honda 4 stroke which will tilt. However the new Hondas have a new case and I'm not sure if they will tilt up or not. I've noticed the newer 2 strokes are also getting larger with the new emmisions requirements so they might have a problem too. You can leave the motor down all the time if you like, you just lose the advantages of less drag while sailing. As far as I know, all the wells are the same size regardless of year. Paul 1974 Catalina 27 Vancouver BC http://community.webshots.com/album/14287993qauQVQbYXp
As far as I know all outboards up to about 15 hp will fit. Some just won't tilt up out of the water. Most of the problems come with the new 4 stroke outboards which are larger for the same power output then a 2 stroke. My 1974 C27 is powered by a 1994 8 HP Honda 4 stroke which will tilt. However the new Hondas have a new case and I'm not sure if they will tilt up or not. I've noticed the newer 2 strokes are also getting larger with the new emmisions requirements so they might have a problem too. You can leave the motor down all the time if you like, you just lose the advantages of less drag while sailing. As far as I know, all the wells are the same size regardless of year. Paul 1974 Catalina 27 Vancouver BC http://community.webshots.com/album/14287993qauQVQbYXp
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LaDonna Bubak - Catalina Owners
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Dave Z.
I have a 88 Yamaha 9.9 but mods were made
Looks like the transom was modified a bit, and the rudder notched to take the long shaft on this OB. BTW< the 9.9 4-stroke is more power than I need, it has 1000 RPM avail even after we reach hull speed.
Looks like the transom was modified a bit, and the rudder notched to take the long shaft on this OB. BTW< the 9.9 4-stroke is more power than I need, it has 1000 RPM avail even after we reach hull speed.
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John Eastin
Modifications are normal
When we had our boat last surveyed the surveyor was a little worried about a modification that was done (and poorly at that) to the engine well cover. (There's probably an accurate sailing term for this but I don't know it.) He called Catalina and the answer they gave was that you could basically do whatever you wanted to that portion of the boat as long as you made sure to reinforce the interior of the compartment with some marine plywood and a little 5200 prior to mounting a larger motor. Of course their stock answer is to limit your hp to 9.9. My understanding is that the newer Honda 15 hp 4 strokes are a little heavier than the 2 strokes but not much bigger. That's my plan for replacement. As for leaving your outboard in the vertical position....is there any worry about freezing here in the Northwest? I've always tilted mine out of habit but it's a chore and if it's not necessary I'll likely quit standing on my head to do it. The drag while sailing is not very noticeable from my perspective.
When we had our boat last surveyed the surveyor was a little worried about a modification that was done (and poorly at that) to the engine well cover. (There's probably an accurate sailing term for this but I don't know it.) He called Catalina and the answer they gave was that you could basically do whatever you wanted to that portion of the boat as long as you made sure to reinforce the interior of the compartment with some marine plywood and a little 5200 prior to mounting a larger motor. Of course their stock answer is to limit your hp to 9.9. My understanding is that the newer Honda 15 hp 4 strokes are a little heavier than the 2 strokes but not much bigger. That's my plan for replacement. As for leaving your outboard in the vertical position....is there any worry about freezing here in the Northwest? I've always tilted mine out of habit but it's a chore and if it's not necessary I'll likely quit standing on my head to do it. The drag while sailing is not very noticeable from my perspective.
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Peter Hine
Johnson 15 2strk -great but thirsty!
Last year my (up till then) 10 year old trustworhy evinrude 9.9 threw a rod, so I had to replace it. I had about 2 weeks before a major boat event, so I didn't have a lot of time to consider options. Chose a 2000 Johnson 15, LS/ES with a 4-blade prop. It's a great motor, but thirsty (I use about 1.2GPH at 5.2-5.5 knots). Fit, including tilting up out of the water, with only very minor surgery to the non-structural lazarette hatch. I picked it up on Thursday, worked on it Thursday and Friday evening after work and was done with the installation Saturday evening. Including finish work and running remote control cables! If I had it to do over, I'd look at a Honda 8, it's small enough to look like it would fit w/o surgery (the biger Hondas need you to cut the transom area). Not sure the 8 would give enough power for me (I motor a lot), but others have said its OK for them. Best to try one out if your dealer has a demo you can borrow. I'm very happy with the Johnson, just wish it was a litle more miserly on fuel, and less polluting.
Last year my (up till then) 10 year old trustworhy evinrude 9.9 threw a rod, so I had to replace it. I had about 2 weeks before a major boat event, so I didn't have a lot of time to consider options. Chose a 2000 Johnson 15, LS/ES with a 4-blade prop. It's a great motor, but thirsty (I use about 1.2GPH at 5.2-5.5 knots). Fit, including tilting up out of the water, with only very minor surgery to the non-structural lazarette hatch. I picked it up on Thursday, worked on it Thursday and Friday evening after work and was done with the installation Saturday evening. Including finish work and running remote control cables! If I had it to do over, I'd look at a Honda 8, it's small enough to look like it would fit w/o surgery (the biger Hondas need you to cut the transom area). Not sure the 8 would give enough power for me (I motor a lot), but others have said its OK for them. Best to try one out if your dealer has a demo you can borrow. I'm very happy with the Johnson, just wish it was a litle more miserly on fuel, and less polluting.
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Terry Goodin
Johnson 9.9
I have a Johnson 9.9 hp motor and it works great. The mount allows enough space to tilt it out of the water after it has been raised. I don't know how fuel efficient it is because I haven't had to add gas yet. (That's because I just bought it and have been out every weekend for the past two and a half months and the tank still registers full). I wish I had cockpit controls, as LaDonna suggested. It's a real hassle to lean back over the transom to motor in and out of the dock. Basically, you need two people to manage the boat.
I have a Johnson 9.9 hp motor and it works great. The mount allows enough space to tilt it out of the water after it has been raised. I don't know how fuel efficient it is because I haven't had to add gas yet. (That's because I just bought it and have been out every weekend for the past two and a half months and the tank still registers full). I wish I had cockpit controls, as LaDonna suggested. It's a real hassle to lean back over the transom to motor in and out of the dock. Basically, you need two people to manage the boat.
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Bob Camarena
4 Cycle
They're heavier and maybe a little bigger, but, given the way environmental controls are headed, I'd seriously consider a 4 cycle engine if I was buying new today. I used to have a Honda that was whisper quiet.
They're heavier and maybe a little bigger, but, given the way environmental controls are headed, I'd seriously consider a 4 cycle engine if I was buying new today. I used to have a Honda that was whisper quiet.
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