buy macgregor or not?

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Oct 26, 2008
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Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Mr. Bill, you know how to pronounce Ho Pat Cong!!!!

Thats pretty good ... there are a lot of people in NJ who still have problems with that. Lots of people that I run into when I'm in Hoboken or Jersey City often give me blank looks and ask where is that? I often can't find the name of a town out in our direction that they recognize so I get more blank looks (even though it's just an hour drive in rush hour traffic). Some have a vague awareness of Morristown or Dover, but we may as well be in the middle of Pennsylvania for all they know.

Power boats on Lake Hopatcong? Not that I've noticed ... :Liar: There are just a few (30 or so) ... with dual or triple 250 HP engines ... and open exhaust pipes. Not really a bother ... :Liar: One actually has a jet engine!

Mr. Bill, I give you props for "Let me Google this for you" and your message. I had to laugh and that's always a good thing! I have a small confession to make. Last summer, we ran across a guy who brought his Catalina 25 over to the lake and spent a week hanging out . He told us he had it over on the Hudson earlier and was taking it down to the Chesapeake later in the summer. I was more than just a little envious. I've been pretty restless for more space to sail and explore, but totalling the cost for moving our boat is going to be about $1,400 all said & done. I've been ready for a long time, but Sue hates to give up the convenience because she doesn't want to commit entire weekends to the boat. We're kind of at a stand-off on this issue, and it is too easy to just stay put. We now have a slip at Lee's County Park, just a couple minutes down the road from our house.

I've been on a friends Mac over on Lake Wallenpaupack in Pa. Plus there are plenty of nice folks that enjoy their's on our lake. I have no problem with people enjoying their boat ... that's basically what we all do regardless of what we have. I think if you really understand my posts, you will see that I am basically commenting on the paradox of purchasing a boat that is designed for ease of trailering when logic dictates that the owners will most likely be keeping their boat on a can or a slip, and a boat with fixed keel is better suited to Lake Michigan conditions. I think that the later posts pretty much confirmed my statements regarding the scarcity of ramps. Even dlandersson unwittingly demonstrated that the trailer sailer boats that are in the harbors, are on cans or slips and maybe use their trailers just twice per year. Did you know that the ramp that ualpow mentions in Winthrop Harbor is basically on the Wisconsin border? He's basically saying that the only somewhat convenient ramp between the Wisconsin border and Hammond, Indiana (about 100 miles of shoreline) is the ramp at Burnham Harbor, downtown. Do you know what it's like driving into the city on a summer weekend, particularly a Friday night, when the city comes alive with people driving in from basically the entire midwest for the spectacular summer living that Chicago offers? As they say in NJ ... fahgetabowdit!

But decisions are theirs to make and there are plenty of reasons to own a Mac as well, so God Bless as they also say in the Garden State!
 
Dec 15, 2011
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Oday 20 SF Bay Area/Monterey Bay
After reading this thread some of you make it sound as though the Bering Sea would be more suitable for a trailer sailor than Lake Michigan. Perhaps Discovery Chanel should come film a series on the sailors of Lake Michigan and those brave souls that dare boat those waters.(Exaggerated for effect)

Niti, buy the Mac and enjoy it. Drop the laundry and motor in if it gets rough. Also known as picking your weather window and using your head. Something I suspect EVERYBODY does not JUST on Lake Michigan, regardless of what kind of keel they have. It will make a good first boat that will give you the experience to decide if sailing IS your thing. It will also be easy to sell should you decide to move up to another boat later.
 
May 4, 2005
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Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
Hey Scott, that is the beauty of a trailer-sailor!

I can go to the keys, or over to the west coast. or miami's biscayne bay, all in an hour or 2. -With a slipped boat, it would take a 3-5 days. and the cabins in the mac are really large for their size. I have a cali king mattress topper. really!

ps: -Glad to hear Fred doesn't run the donzi around the lake on a regular basis. (an I/O on a lake? Seriously? What were they thinking!) But it does pull water skiers nicely LOL!

What was really cool on that lake, was some old 40's and 50's chris-craft and antiques. I don't see them down south much at all. woodies! and aluminum's yea!

Anyway, I think of Mac's like the old VW beetles of sailboat. they get the job done, on a budget, but not in a grand style.

cheers!
 
Feb 16, 2011
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Macgregor 26X Michigan City, IN
Actually no, "dlandersson DID NOT unwittingly demonstrate that the trailer sailer boats that are in the harbors, are on cans or slips and maybe use their trailers just twice per year." dlandersson stated that was what he did (because he's lazy :D). dlandersson knows quite a few Mac owners that use the ramps in Whiting or Hammond - because he has homes in both places.

By any chance do you work in politics?:Liar:

I confess I am curious about how the macs and other trailer sailors got into Dusable and Montrose harbor - it never occurred to me to ask at the time(s).

As you note "decisions are theirs to make and there are plenty of reasons to own a Mac as well, so God Bless as they also say in the Garden State!"
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,240
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Is it time to hijack this thread, yet?

Politics? no .... I talk politics but as is typical for an engineer, I am unusually logical. However, nobody has commented yet on the paradox that I own a boat with a fixed keel when it would be far more logical for me to own a trailer sailer! :confused: Mr. Bill came close.

Bill, the antique wooden boats on Lake Hopatcong go a lot farther back than that. We lived on Byram Cove for a few years next door to an old gentleman that had a boat house and garage filled with beautifully restored antiques - cars, boats, canoes ... you name it and his boats went back to the turn of the previous century. He said it was a real shame in the early 60's when piles of wooden boats where simply burned to get rid of them.

There really is a motherlode of antique boats on the lake. The annual show is a big event.

http://woodyboater.com/classic-boat...e-classic-boat-show-holy-classic-boats-batman

Here's a you tube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L--TMS61Zvw&feature=related
 
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