Bildge pump

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paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
Finished installing new bildge pump today......this should give me a few minutes to repair a leak.




paulj :troll:
 

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Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
So you now have an electric pump using the manual line? Will water still pull thru the pump if you use the manual?
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
So now you have 2 electrics each with it's own thru hull and no manual pump?
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
Witzend

One small electric bidge pump for normal low water with check valve.


One high volume electric bidge pump for those really bad days.


One bailing bucket required by USCG.


One manual bildge pump with no hoses attached.



paulj :troll:
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
I'm not sure I would have disabled the manual. If you go dead, you may need that bucket. Remember you still can use the engine as I hinted to in another post, but received no comments about?
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
That is a good question. First it is an emergency procedure and would depend on your engine RPM. When I winterize the engine it sucked a gallon on antifreeze at idle in about 15-20 seconds, so at 3K maybe 9-12GPM.
 
Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
So PaulJ,

You are not worried about the "nightmare" scenario? What if your power is dead and you are taking on water?

Maybe I am just one of those paranoid sailors but I would not feel comfortable with a bucket as my backup. I usually sail with just my wife and dog and I know I could have my wife in the cockpit pumping the manual while I try to figure out the problem and stop the water. If she was trying to do that with a bucket or the manual pump from westmarine, she would likely be in my way.
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
JK_Boston_Catalina310

The what if condtions can go on for ever......

My plan, that gives me piece of mind, is that the new electric bildge pump which is hooked directly to house bank should keep ahead of inflow of water until situation is solved.

If the new pump fails for any reason.......or any situation I can't solve fire, explosion, ran over by another boat, large whale in boat, pirates and etc...... the bottom line is....... it's me and the dog into the dinghy with my little red bag.


I have insurance to cover the loss of boat or $85,000.

These are my thoughts only and not to be used by others.


paulj :troll:
 
Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
That makes sense

If I were sailing solo a lot I think I would make this same change.

Thanks for the explanation and post.

JK
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
That is a good question. First it is an emergency procedure and would depend on your engine RPM. When I winterize the engine it sucked a gallon on antifreeze at idle in about 15-20 seconds, so at 3K maybe 9-12GPM.
I like this system, too. Sometimes, I'll fill the bilge with fresh water and run it through the engine, when I know she's going to be sitting awhile, or every couple hundred of hours of operation, just for that fresh water flush.
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
I like this system, too. Sometimes, I'll fill the bilge with fresh water and run it through the engine, when I know she's going to be sitting awhile, or every couple hundred of hours of operation, just for that fresh water flush.
Hadn't thought of this procedure for flushing the engine and bilge out, good to know you can reach the bilge with the intake hose.
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
Hadn't thought of this procedure for flushing the engine and bilge out, good to know you can reach the bilge with the intake hose.
Don't know if the original intake hose will reach the bilge. I have a longer hose attached to a 2-way valve at the strainer. The hose is coiled under the aft bunk. Pumping out the bilge involves uncoiling the hose and throwing the valve. Sucks that bilge dry pretty quickly, too.
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
Don't know if the original intake hose will reach the bilge. I have a longer hose attached to a 2-way valve at the strainer. The hose is coiled under the aft bunk. Pumping out the bilge involves uncoiling the hose and throwing the valve. Sucks that bilge dry pretty quickly, too.
Your probably correct, it wouldn't.

Is your 2 way before the strainer or after?
I would think you would want it before, to catch anything that might accidentally get sucked up.
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
Your probably correct, it wouldn't.

Is your 2 way before the strainer or after?
I would think you would want it before, to catch anything that might accidentally get sucked up.
What I meant was, that the engine will empty the bilge quickly, so you need to stand by the 2-way valve, and put it back to the normal position before the bilge is emptied. The valve is before the strainer, and the hose has a strainer on the end. In addition, the hose has a check valve near the pickup, so that the hose is always full of water. The 2-way valve is secured in the normal position by small zip-ties, that can be easily broken in an emergency.
This setup was suggested to me by a friend, who installed the same system in his Island Packet. I had already installed a high-water alarm, but I figured if I ever heard that go off, I'd need some way to remove water quickly, and this arrangement seems to fit the bill.
 
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