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Try a Contessa. They have been traveling around the world on the oceans for years. Great blue water boat. Some of them range in 40 and 50 ft in lenght, save you some money also.
Try a Contessa. They have been traveling around the world on the oceans for years. Great blue water boat. Some of them range in 40 and 50 ft in lenght, save you some money also.
I'd go a different direction....
...so far all the suggestions have been luxury oriented yachts such as HR, Oyster, Swan etc..... I'd go with something under 39 feet that I could handle without relying on power winches, generators etc. You said SOLO, right! You'll need a crew for the larger boats. If I were in your position, with plenty of money, I would spend less on a big ass luxury liner and get a more manageble sized bluewater yacht, and hire a crew or a skipper for the long passages. I love Valiant, Baba, IP, Cabo Rico, Cheoy Lee, Pacific Seacraft, .... look in the 32-39 foot range. Do you see where I'm going? Someone else mentioned commissioning a custom built yacht. I think that's a great idea. With your current experience, supplemented by some additional blue water crewing opportunties, you may be able to come up with a check list of requirements that a good yacht designer can use to create your perfect boat.
...so far all the suggestions have been luxury oriented yachts such as HR, Oyster, Swan etc..... I'd go with something under 39 feet that I could handle without relying on power winches, generators etc. You said SOLO, right! You'll need a crew for the larger boats. If I were in your position, with plenty of money, I would spend less on a big ass luxury liner and get a more manageble sized bluewater yacht, and hire a crew or a skipper for the long passages. I love Valiant, Baba, IP, Cabo Rico, Cheoy Lee, Pacific Seacraft, .... look in the 32-39 foot range. Do you see where I'm going? Someone else mentioned commissioning a custom built yacht. I think that's a great idea. With your current experience, supplemented by some additional blue water crewing opportunties, you may be able to come up with a check list of requirements that a good yacht designer can use to create your perfect boat.
Ok..
Swan, Hinckley, Morris, Lyman Morse, Halberg Rassy, Pasport, Alden, Little Harbor & Oyster.. Have at those then get back to us...
Swan, Hinckley, Morris, Lyman Morse, Halberg Rassy, Pasport, Alden, Little Harbor & Oyster.. Have at those then get back to us...
Dont lisen to the nay sayers
they race 60's single handed non stop round the world....Mainsail might have even done it...
they race 60's single handed non stop round the world....Mainsail might have even done it...
Nope...
Not even close, never been around the globe, though I have been on board an open sixty just not under sail. Impressive boats though..
Not even close, never been around the globe, though I have been on board an open sixty just not under sail. Impressive boats though..
You are on the track with the HR, Swans and Oysters
Most of them are well found boats. It also matter "how" you will go around the world. I assume you will take your time, find favorable weather windows and aren't planning on high lattitude sailing and attacking Cape Horn. I still think its important to get a boat thats manageble and not too big. Yes there are people sailing around the world in Open 60's but these are highly skilled off shore sailors. Not to mention the Open 60's are fast and not the most comfortable boats at sea or at anchor. . Catamarans are a unique idea. I am not sure about what it would be like to single hand one offshore, but a young couple (from the midwest) with money did a circumnavigation on a 35' Cat and seemed to make out fine. Take a look at Bumfuzzles website http://www.bumfuzzle.com/Pages/Miscellaneous/Wildcat350.html (Now they plan to drive around the world in a '58 vw bus -- how fun are these kids !!)
Most of them are well found boats. It also matter "how" you will go around the world. I assume you will take your time, find favorable weather windows and aren't planning on high lattitude sailing and attacking Cape Horn. I still think its important to get a boat thats manageble and not too big. Yes there are people sailing around the world in Open 60's but these are highly skilled off shore sailors. Not to mention the Open 60's are fast and not the most comfortable boats at sea or at anchor. . Catamarans are a unique idea. I am not sure about what it would be like to single hand one offshore, but a young couple (from the midwest) with money did a circumnavigation on a 35' Cat and seemed to make out fine. Take a look at Bumfuzzles website http://www.bumfuzzle.com/Pages/Miscellaneous/Wildcat350.html (Now they plan to drive around the world in a '58 vw bus -- how fun are these kids !!)
There are several
There are several that come to mind, most already mentioned. Passport, Caliber, Hans Christian, Shannon, Cabo Rico, Valient, Gozzard, Bristol, Hinkley, Outbound. Not to mention Island Packet, Tartan, Sabre. Good luck in your search and adventures.
There are several that come to mind, most already mentioned. Passport, Caliber, Hans Christian, Shannon, Cabo Rico, Valient, Gozzard, Bristol, Hinkley, Outbound. Not to mention Island Packet, Tartan, Sabre. Good luck in your search and adventures.
It's not so much the boat as the state of the bits
You very rarely here of hulls failing or keels falling off but you do hear much about gear failure. So if I was spending this sort of cash I would rather buy a near new 45 footer than a 25 year old 70 footer no matter what the make. Incidently I am suprised you have not had any offers on the site to turn your solo venture into a dual one!
You very rarely here of hulls failing or keels falling off but you do hear much about gear failure. So if I was spending this sort of cash I would rather buy a near new 45 footer than a 25 year old 70 footer no matter what the make. Incidently I am suprised you have not had any offers on the site to turn your solo venture into a dual one!
The absolute best IMO is Caliber
Built in Clearwater FL the Caliber 47 is a center cockpit cutter rigged boat that is 52' over all check out caliber yachts, about 650K loaded If I had the money thats the one I'd get!
Built in Clearwater FL the Caliber 47 is a center cockpit cutter rigged boat that is 52' over all check out caliber yachts, about 650K loaded If I had the money thats the one I'd get!
All i can say is.......
In the size range you are looking at, I would not consider any other rig besides a ketch. It is the easiest to single hand and to balance in all weather conditions. Tony B
In the size range you are looking at, I would not consider any other rig besides a ketch. It is the easiest to single hand and to balance in all weather conditions. Tony B
One thing to always consider. The cost of keeping a boat
increases exponentially with the size. A 42 foot boat will cost twice as much to keep as a 30 foot boat. Everything is bigger and therefore more expensive on the bigger boat. Now the opposite is true of boat babes, smaller and younger increases the maintenance cost.
increases exponentially with the size. A 42 foot boat will cost twice as much to keep as a 30 foot boat. Everything is bigger and therefore more expensive on the bigger boat. Now the opposite is true of boat babes, smaller and younger increases the maintenance cost.
SSCA web site
Check other places onthe internet such as the seven seas cruising association and look at the boats that are now circumnvigating. This would be a good starting point. With a $800K budget you should have no problems finding a boat. My budet would be closer to $80K and a Wauquiz Hood 38 looks good to me. The daggerboard would allow some thin water sailing . http://cruisenews.net/db/shipsatsea.php http://ssca.org
Check other places onthe internet such as the seven seas cruising association and look at the boats that are now circumnvigating. This would be a good starting point. With a $800K budget you should have no problems finding a boat. My budet would be closer to $80K and a Wauquiz Hood 38 looks good to me. The daggerboard would allow some thin water sailing . http://cruisenews.net/db/shipsatsea.php http://ssca.org
Best World Cruiser!
Hands down the best world cruiser is the Halberg Rassey. Even the 31 footer is rated at unlimited ocean voyages. The boat you have could easily get you around the world however you may want one of the larger HRs. I own the 40 HR, I challenge any Hinckly, Hylas or Oyster owner to go around the world with me. They wouldn't make it, I would. WM
Hands down the best world cruiser is the Halberg Rassey. Even the 31 footer is rated at unlimited ocean voyages. The boat you have could easily get you around the world however you may want one of the larger HRs. I own the 40 HR, I challenge any Hinckly, Hylas or Oyster owner to go around the world with me. They wouldn't make it, I would. WM
Hands Down?
More like Thumb Up (you know where) Neptune's Watch. We know who you are & we reject your constant provocations all over the sailing websites for your pathological narcissism and business interests. You should have to pay for your thinly veiled advertisements on these sites.
More like Thumb Up (you know where) Neptune's Watch. We know who you are & we reject your constant provocations all over the sailing websites for your pathological narcissism and business interests. You should have to pay for your thinly veiled advertisements on these sites.
If an old oyster smack could do it
Neptune's Watch, like my post title says, Slocum did it in a worn out oyster smack that he rebuilt in a pasture so I doubt that the high quality modern boats you are disparaging would have trouble keeping up during a circumnavigation. Have a good trip and let us know when you get back.
Neptune's Watch, like my post title says, Slocum did it in a worn out oyster smack that he rebuilt in a pasture so I doubt that the high quality modern boats you are disparaging would have trouble keeping up during a circumnavigation. Have a good trip and let us know when you get back.
Maybe you should
Whitesail, You didn't indicate how much sailing experience you have, if any. If you are not an experienced sailor, I would highly recommend you purchase a much smaller boat, and learn to sail it well. I have known people who started out with too much boat for them, and were just overwhelmed. A boat in the size range you are thinking of, will be a very difficult learning experience for someone not accustomed to bigger sailboats.If you don't have a lot of experience, get yourself something big enough to do some coastal cruising in, spend some time alone on it. I would suggest a year at least. An older Catalina or Hunter 27 to 30'er, would be a pretty good starting point. Not only will you learn to become a better sailor, navigator, and fixer of problems, but you will discover features you want, features you don't want and things that you will consider an absolute necessity. When you get finished with it, you can sell it, and if taken care of, you won't loose much if any money.
Whitesail, You didn't indicate how much sailing experience you have, if any. If you are not an experienced sailor, I would highly recommend you purchase a much smaller boat, and learn to sail it well. I have known people who started out with too much boat for them, and were just overwhelmed. A boat in the size range you are thinking of, will be a very difficult learning experience for someone not accustomed to bigger sailboats.If you don't have a lot of experience, get yourself something big enough to do some coastal cruising in, spend some time alone on it. I would suggest a year at least. An older Catalina or Hunter 27 to 30'er, would be a pretty good starting point. Not only will you learn to become a better sailor, navigator, and fixer of problems, but you will discover features you want, features you don't want and things that you will consider an absolute necessity. When you get finished with it, you can sell it, and if taken care of, you won't loose much if any money.
Icetug
Ice Tug you are correct about Joshua Slocum, however he completely did over his boat adding new ribs, chimes, planks, and increased his freeboard as well. The boat that resulted was a more hardly hardly worn boat. He also did his boat over on a salt marsh I know because I use to keep my boat therem Fairhaven, MA. And don't forget he went to sea at a tender young age and was a ships captain in his twenties so going around the world alone was not a completely incredible feat for him. Best, NH
Ice Tug you are correct about Joshua Slocum, however he completely did over his boat adding new ribs, chimes, planks, and increased his freeboard as well. The boat that resulted was a more hardly hardly worn boat. He also did his boat over on a salt marsh I know because I use to keep my boat therem Fairhaven, MA. And don't forget he went to sea at a tender young age and was a ships captain in his twenties so going around the world alone was not a completely incredible feat for him. Best, NH
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