As A Freshman On A Slip, How To Best Not Look Green?

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Oct 10, 2009
1,044
Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
I think it's impossible to not look green when you're doing something new, so there's really no sense in trying to avoid it. Personally, I don't care what people think of me at the marina; I follow the rules, act conscientiously and as a relatively new sailboat owner I attempt to minimize the screw ups by being very cautious and by taking things as slow and as deliberately as possible. If people have forgotten what it's like to be new and don't recognize that a person may have a lot to learn, yet is careful, safe and interested in improving then they're just not worth worrying about. Every moment thinking about them is a moment not spent reflecting on the enjoyments of sailing.

Having said that, I offer the following tips:

If you're not bored, you're going too fast.
Check your boat as often as you can, or have someone else do it.
Big fenders.
Good docklines- you don't want someone else to have to deal with your problem while you are away. Don't wait until chafe turns to a parted line.
Keep your boat hook handy to push off other boats or vice versa. And buy a second.
Spend time on your boat at the slip. I work on my boat, putter around even, specifically so I will meet others at the dock. I don't attend social events because there isn't anything for my kids to do at them, so this is my way of getting to know people.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
All good advice given.

I'd like to add the following and not necessarily for the purpose to 'impress' but rather gain immediate respect and to lessen the potential of being innocently and wrongly blamed for 'crunches', dings, etc.

Rx: Learn or 'master' the art of 'backing and filling' or 'pivot turns' with your boat. Especially if your boat has a right-handed prop with an 'inboard' engine, Learn that a SAILBOAT will not turn to starboard when going ahead, nor to starboard when in reverse and that sailboats so equipped have great difficulty approaching a dock or a slip on their starboard side, etc. ... simply become a 'master' at "backing and filling' and 'pivot turns' (and without the use of the RUDDER at all! ... and immediately become reknown for your boat handling knowledge and expertise .... requires 'practice', practice and practice to 'master'. Such sailboat handling is virtually unknown to stinkpotters (and many blow-boaters). If you try to 'back in' to slip from 'a starboard angle' you will usually 'have an uncontrolled mess' on your hands with the possibiliity of causing damage to other boats/docks, etc., and especially in adverse wind/wave conditions.

"Backing and filling" and 'pivot turns' will keep you within a reasonable frame of control and expertise ... and visibly to others, less potential as the typical out of control when docking blow-boater.

go to the USSailing website and do a search for "pivot turn', etc. for their great instructional videos

:)
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
-this is an inboard engine right?

I have an ob, and if I need to maintain position, I'll spin a 180 and use forward gear instead of trying to stop with reverse (ie., closed bridge against current).

-ymmv.
 
Oct 10, 2011
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Capri 18 Omaha
Hey Omaha! Glad to see a neighbor, and welcome to the forum as an official posting member!

Do you slip your boat in Omaha? Omaha had a problem with flooding last boating season, and many folks came over to our lake.
River boaters, NP Dodge marina destroyed, Sandpiper destroyed, Cottonwood destroyed, Bellevue destroyed. All along the Missouri marinas are gone! Our lake is fine except now the city thinks our slip fees should be increased to help pay for the other marinas to be rebuilt.
 
Oct 6, 2011
678
CM 32 USA
MrBill_FLL said:
-this is an inboard engine right?

I have an ob, and if I need to maintain position, I'll spin a 180 and use forward gear instead of trying to stop with reverse (ie., closed bridge against current).

-ymmv.
Yes, sail drive in a well in the front of the cockpit. Last fall I had zero issues getting in and out of a slip with my Mac 25 with a kicker 15 hp on the stern. This spring, on a larger boat with a different engine I am assuming things will be similar but not exactly the same. I will pick a slip / dock away from other boats and practice docking till I have a good feel of it before I go near congested areas. My style around the docks is so slow, people may wonder at first glance if I am coming or going. I go VERY SLOW. Two reasons, one, I am cautious of my possessions and those of my neighbors, and two, I like to look at other boats, and I cannot get my fill if I speed by. Speed is all well and good on the lake, but it has no place by the docks. I have a goal of no accidents, no incidents, and no excuses. I wish to be the guy no one remembers, except that is not possible, because of my odd boat, my odd vehicles that stick out like sore thumbs, and my 6'7" frame.
 
May 12, 2010
237
Macgregor 25 Southern Maryland
My sister in laws lake ( 93 miles of shoreline) does not allow boats with any type of cabin. It is pretty much a community of pontoon boats.

If you have a toilet, kitchen, or a place to sleep, you are subject to arrest.

http://www.sipower.org/p/EGLakerules.pdf

I like our lake a lot more. If I were forced to have a pontoon boat, I would motorcycle.
That would be a pain. I guess when you have a private lake, you can do stuff like this....
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Yes, sail drive in a well in the front of the cockpit. Last fall I had zero issues getting in and out of a slip with my Mac 25 with a kicker 15 hp on the stern. This spring, on a larger boat with a different engine I am assuming things will be similar but not exactly the same. I will pick a slip / dock away from other boats and practice docking till I have a good feel of it before I go near congested areas. My style around the docks is so slow, people may wonder at first glance if I am coming or going. I go VERY SLOW. Two reasons, one, I am cautious of my possessions and those of my neighbors, and two, I like to look at other boats, and I cannot get my fill if I speed by. Speed is all well and good on the lake, but it has no place by the docks. I have a goal of no accidents, no incidents, and no excuses. I wish to be the guy no one remembers, except that is not possible, because of my odd boat, my odd vehicles that stick out like sore thumbs, and my 6'7" frame.
Gary, for sure slow is good but two things to keep in mind. 1) is that you will want to make sure you have enough way on for the rudder to be effective. You'll figure out the optimum speed pretty quick. And 2) you'll need enough speed to counteract any bow drift due to the wind. You 30 is light and has lots of windage, so if it is blowing you'll need to balance the desire to go slow with enough umph to keep the nose heading were you want it.
 
Sep 5, 2007
689
MacGregor 26X Rochester
That's the problem I had learning to drive my Mac 26X - high freeboard, light weight, easily blown around, therefore have to keep a bit of speed up to keep from being blown into the line of boats in the docks. My 34 footer was much easier to handle at slow speeds, and would pivot around its keel like it was on a post. Not so much the Mac, even with the centerboard and both rudders all the way down, though keeping the ballast tank full helps slow things down a little.

BUT, directed thrust from the outboard can be used to my advantage, once I got the knack of it.
 
Oct 6, 2011
678
CM 32 USA
OK, now you guys are scaring me. One thing in my favor (I think) is my marina is somewhat shielded from the wind.

My first few years, any moment my sailboats did was from the wind, last season was the first time I ever used an engine on a sailboat. Having an engine, made it seem so so easy.

My mid mount saildrive will feel much different than a kicker on the stern, and that could mean I will need to keep the speed up to maintain control.

Dread has just been introduced into my brain.
 

LuzSD

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Feb 21, 2009
1,009
Catalina 30 San Diego/ Dana Point, Ca.
Gary, stop worrying, go do it and if you have trouble people will be more than happy to be the ones to help....... I agree with you, suddenly things are getting way to technical and over thought. You have to start slow, realize if you don't have enough speed and increase it if needed. Go do it, lots of times and stop worrying... it will be fine.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,060
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Gary, stop worrying, go do it and if you have trouble people will be more than happy to be the ones to help....... I agree with you, suddenly things are getting way to technical and over thought. You have to start slow, realize if you don't have enough speed and increase it if needed. Go do it, lots of times and stop worrying... it will be fine.
Amen... Period.



Oh, god, we're all gonna die.
 
Oct 6, 2011
678
CM 32 USA
Update: I was the second boat on the slip, and a week later still just three of us, I traded the boat so I pulled it out.

Purchased a 32 footer. 32's are the largest boats the marina allows. Looking forward to this sailing season.

Sweet boat. 32 foot Clipper Marine. 1976. Every option accessory I ever heard of and some I never heard of, are on this boat. Mast is 30 feet above the cabin.

Towing her home now.
 
Mar 14, 2012
131
Beneteau Oceanis 40CC Brisbane, CA
Congrats. With a barren dock it's easier to get into the swing of things and practice maneuvering in and out of the slip. I had to write a check the first time I docked my boat so you're way ahead of the game!
 
Feb 18, 2012
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oday 25 branched oaks
branched oaks

In the winter, in Nebraska, all there is to do is dream of spring!
Hey Gary I just bought a sailboat and got a slip at branched oaks. Looking forward to meeting sailors in Ne. How is anchoring out in the lake for overnight boat camping? I do not have a masthead light only a steaming light. I have heard that will be ok and nobody will say anything but I am still concerned. How is the club? I am a regular guy not a rich yachtman. Do not want to be around alot of stiffs!
 
Feb 18, 2012
32
oday 25 branched oaks
Re: branched oaks

oh I just read through the posts and it is your first season there also.. Hey who cares what others think? I am going to enjoy myself! If I am not accepted frig um! LOL!
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,194
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Hey Gary I just bought a sailboat and got a slip at branched oaks. Looking forward to meeting sailors in Ne. How is anchoring out in the lake for overnight boat camping? I do not have a masthead light only a steaming light. I have heard that will be ok and nobody will say anything but I am still concerned. How is the club? I am a regular guy not a rich yachtman. Do not want to be around alot of stiffs!
You don't have to have your anchor light mounted on the masthead.... just a 360 degree, 2 mile visable light. A simple battery powered camp lantern hung from the boom or the forestay is more than adequate.. You can purchase an LED lantern camping lantern at WalMart for under $20.

http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/boating/guides/boating/BGlights.asp
 
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