Are you ready to fall back?
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As I mentioned in another thread, growing up on a milk farm, cows know only one time, udder full time to milk.
It is like cutting a foot off of a piece of rope and tying it to the other end and thinking you now have a longer rope.
I don't like standard time here on the east coast. It was already getting dark early. Now it gets dark when it should still be day time.
I know why it started but...The argument I've heard for why we keep it is that we don't want kids getting on the bus in the dark. HOGWASH! My kids still got on in the dark in the winter time. I think we should keep standard time in the summer and knock it forward in the fall so we can get some time to work in the yard before dark.
I don't like standard time here on the east coast. It was already getting dark early. Now it gets dark when it should still be day time.
I know why it started but...The argument I've heard for why we keep it is that we don't want kids getting on the bus in the dark. HOGWASH! My kids still got on in the dark in the winter time. I think we should keep standard time in the summer and knock it forward in the fall so we can get some time to work in the yard before dark.
- Oct 22, 2014
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Perhaps, with all the daylight we save each day, we can add it to February every four years to keep the calendar consistent?
You know, it takes 365.24219 days for the Earth to go around the Sun, a day being equal to a full rotation of the earth. This means the same geographical spot on Earth that is facing directly at the Sun at the beginning of the year is not again facing the Sun at the ends of the year. It has turned nearly 90 full degrees past that point by the time Earth is back in the same position of orbit around the Sun.
Notice I said "nearly". That translated to almost 1/4 of a full rotation (think leap year), but not fully one quarter. So, every centennial year we don't have a leap year (wait, is that because we have a surplus of daylight from daylight savings?). There's more, we can only skip leap years on centennial years that are NOT divisible by 400.
The New World and Great Britain didn't switch to this Gregoriancalendaric shinnanagans until 1752. Not only did we have to change the New Year from March 15 to January 1, but we had to give up 11 days just to catch up with the rest of the world. So, we started with a daylight deficet, but now, we have saved our daylight so that we have to spend our surplus every one hundred years except for years like 2000. Anyone who saw the year 1900 come and go, got to experience a longer year than everyone else living since.
So, now you know. It's all a plot by the Catholic Church to demonstrate the power they have over space and time itself.
Thus we get
-Will (Dragonfly)
You know, it takes 365.24219 days for the Earth to go around the Sun, a day being equal to a full rotation of the earth.
This means the same geographical spot on Earth that is facing directly at the Sun at the beginning of the year is not again facing the Sun at the ends of the year. It has turned nearly 90 full degrees past that point by the time Earth is back in the same position of orbit around the Sun.Notice I said "nearly". That translated to almost 1/4 of a full rotation (think leap year), but not fully one quarter. So, every centennial year we don't have a leap year (wait, is that because we have a surplus of daylight from daylight savings?
). There's more, we can only skip leap years on centennial years that are NOT divisible by 400. The New World and Great Britain didn't switch to this Gregorian
calendaric shinnanagans until 1752. Not only did we have to change the New Year from March 15 to January 1, but we had to give up 11 days just to catch up with the rest of the world. So, we started with a daylight deficet, but now, we have saved our daylight so that we have to spend our surplus every one hundred years except for years like 2000. Anyone who saw the year 1900 come and go, got to experience a longer year than everyone else living since. So, now you know. It's all a plot by the Catholic Church to demonstrate the power they have over space and time itself.
Thus we get
-Will (Dragonfly)
@Will Gilmore you have been putting your extra hour to good use and learning all sorts of exciting things.
P.S. thanks for teaching me to do the @ thing.
P.S. thanks for teaching me to do the @ thing.
I think it’s time for all of us to look into the mirror when we complain about the current “time” situation.
Long long ago we lived and went about their business sorta like cruising sailors do. By that I mean we used dawn, midday and dusk to manage our daily activities. This was enough to tell us when to get out of bed, when to eat and when to get ready for sleep.
Ironically, it was sailors that needed to know the exact time aboard their ships relative to a stable reference point to determine their longitude (Latitude can be determined without knowing the exact time). The English put up big prize money for someone to develop a clock that was very accurate and able to withstand the rough conditions of the open oceans. John Harrison, a carpenter from Yorkshire, won that prize by building wind-up clocks accurate to just a few seconds in years and gave sailors a means of determining a ships longitude.
To this day, our GPS devises rely on precise time clocks to determine our exact global location.
Long long ago we lived and went about their business sorta like cruising sailors do. By that I mean we used dawn, midday and dusk to manage our daily activities. This was enough to tell us when to get out of bed, when to eat and when to get ready for sleep.
Ironically, it was sailors that needed to know the exact time aboard their ships relative to a stable reference point to determine their longitude (Latitude can be determined without knowing the exact time). The English put up big prize money for someone to develop a clock that was very accurate and able to withstand the rough conditions of the open oceans. John Harrison, a carpenter from Yorkshire, won that prize by building wind-up clocks accurate to just a few seconds in years and gave sailors a means of determining a ships longitude.
To this day, our GPS devises rely on precise time clocks to determine our exact global location.
- Oct 22, 2014
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As a sailor I appreciate the concept of “exact time”. But that in no way affects the construct of “daylight savings time”. That is one of those oxymoron statements. How can any one “Save daylight”? This is not about the accuracy of locating yourself. This is an imaginary concept to delude a people. Somehow the benovalent entity gave you an hour of “Free daylight”. And because a group declared this a “LAW”. We all accept the imaginary.
We should adjust all the clocks forward a few minutes each day for half the year and a few minutes backwards the other half of the year (except for no change on the two equinoxes), such that the sun always sets at precisely 9 p.m. That way we'd save, on average, 3 hours of daylight per day. Think of all we could accomplish with those three hours of daylight!
At our Latitude (and we are not that far north, just 45 degrees), we would have the sunrise shortly after noon on Dec 21. When the blanket is short...
I guess some folks saw it as a way to get people to start work early when the sun was coming up early.. without making a law that dictated business starting times.. It was not Ben Franklin as a common misconception goes.. but he did observe the savings.. an interesting article:
https://www.fi.edu/benjamin-franklin/daylight-savings-time
https://www.fi.edu/benjamin-franklin/daylight-savings-time