America's Cup 35...Bermuda.

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
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Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
It had been rumored, but now it is official - the 2017 America's Cup will be raced in Bermuda. Looks like it will be June in an effort to get things wrapped up prior to hurricane season.
 
Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
That is news! (At least to me). I've got to consider whether the Rock will be a good venue or not. I'm not seeing shore watching opportunities. I haven't checked wind conditions in June but I would expect southwesterly's in the light area. Shore side facilities are a little weak for large numbers of spectators. Transportation is awful. Water is in short supply and the food is terrible. This is the venue? Really?
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,318
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
That's got to be a joke.... it is unlikely that they would take it outside a U.S. venue.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
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Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
They want to do the racing in the sound west of Hamilton, and build a race village, so I imagine the viewing will be pretty good shoreside...not like SF with that long course waterfront, but the TV delay will be a lot better for the Europeans, and the locals appreciate a good sailboat race.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
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Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
That's got to be a joke.... it is unlikely that they would take it outside a U.S. venue.
I think that was the entire logic employed by the SF and SD committees.
 
Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
They want to do the racing in the sound west of Hamilton, and build a race village, so I imagine the viewing will be pretty good shoreside...not like SF with that long course waterfront, but the TV delay will be a lot better for the Europeans, and the locals appreciate a good sailboat race.
I'll keep an open mind but I don't see it so far. That sound is full of reefs and in my limited experience pretty limited as far as freedom to sail around. If I remember, there are serious restrictions close to the harbor in Hamilton - just a slim cut to get outside. I don't really see the shoreside viewing either. The windward side of the Rock would probably be great sailing but I don't thing very good viewing. Just my 2 cents and worth about that.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,318
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
That's got to be a joke.... it is unlikely that they would take it outside a U.S. venue.
Guess not... just googled it. I thought the whole goal of the new format with modern, multi hull, sprint type racing was to appeal to the masses. Since technology allows the event to viewed more effectively online or via television, locating it in an urban, accessible, viewer friendly area seems to be unimportant .... or.... maybe interests in Bermuda came up with the most bucks$$$$.
 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
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Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
Bermuda has always been very, very expensive and only has a limited number of hotel rooms. I have no doubt that prices will soar for this event and it may be that only a certain number of private yachts will be allowed during the races.
This will not be a series that most can afford to go to, and I think that is exactly Ellison's point. He doesn't care a tinker's damn about the country and the people that made him so rich. He wants to turn the Cup back into an elitist sport, for him and his 'robber baron' friends.
If I choose to sail up there for the races, I'd have to sail the Atlantic in the hurricane season, when I leave. Nice.
Apparently, he has rigged the rules so that there is very little chance that he can loose, so we may be watching the demise of this sport as we knew it. Holding the races in a venue that is not in the US is a slap in the face to every single American, IMO.
Let Ellison give up his US citizenship and become Bermudan, if he wants the Cup races there so badly.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Hunter 34 Alameda CA
maybe interests in Bermuda came up with the most bucks$$$$.
Now I'm surprised it isn't in the Cayman Islands. That's where a lot of corporate assets may be located. Either that or US sponsors just couldn't see the return . San Francisco was rumored to have taken a bath when it was all over. Still I'm dissappointed that it's not being hosted in the US. The lack of enthusiasm is overwhelming.
 
Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
hum this is just like moving industry off shore has it occurred to anyone that there may be tax breaks in this action as usual its follow the money
 
Jul 27, 2011
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Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
I wonder where the Cup will be displayed if Oracle wins again. Where will be its home? Bermuda? Who will see it there? Is there an American yacht club involved in this in any way? Having the Cup here on the west coast has been fun for many; it's made a couple of "runs" between San Francisco and San Diego for sailors to see up close. This decision is potentially taking much of the fun out of it for all of the grass roots supporters of US yacht racing. I wondered if they figured THAT into the equation.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
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Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
How many commenters actually attended AC 34 in San Francisco? (Stu and you and any other townies don't count).
 
Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
did a little digging here and it seems that the first race was not even held in the US ...so being in Bermuda or out of US waters is not something new......this came from Wikipedia....

"The trophy was originally awarded in 1851 by the Royal Yacht Squadron for a race around the Isle of Wight in England, which was won by the schooner America. The trophy was renamed the America's Cup after the yacht and was donated to the New York Yacht Club (NYYC) under the terms of the Deed of Gift, which made the cup available for perpetual international competition."
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,180
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
did a little digging here and it seems that the first race was not even held in the US ...so being in Bermuda or out of US waters is not something new......this came from Wikipedia....

"The trophy was originally awarded in 1851 by the Royal Yacht Squadron for a race around the Isle of Wight in England, which was won by the schooner America. The trophy was renamed the America's Cup after the yacht and was donated to the New York Yacht Club (NYYC) under the terms of the Deed of Gift, which made the cup available for perpetual international competition."
Isn't that irrelevant? For the first race it was not even the "America's Cup"; it was not in our possession; there was no Deed of Gift, and the sponsoring club was in Britain where the race was held!! Obviously, the Swiss did not have the race in Switzerland, so I suppose the "holder of the Cup" can have the race wherever it wishes. That's not my point--what yacht club will be involved in this, if any? Will it be an American one?
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Isn't that irrelevant? For the first race it was not even the "America's Cup"; it was not in our possession; there was no Deed of Gift, and the sponsoring club was in Britain where the race was held!! Obviously, the Swiss did not have the race in Switzerland, so I suppose the "holder of the Cup" can have the race wherever it wishes. That's not my point--what yacht club will be involved in this, if any? Will it be an American one?
to answer your question it will be the...Golden Gate Yacht Club....

as for other venues 1987 Fremantle Australia Royal Perth Yacht Club

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