Albin Vega Wanted

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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
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What if I were to rig the decompression lever to work with a lever or cable from the cockpit...then once she is spinning, I drop the lever and voile!!???

Chris

Steve Birch steve@... wrote: I bet it hasnt got the b*lls to start a volvo!!

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stevebirch2002

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Nov 8, 2001
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That is how you should start the engine, lift decompression lever and
let drop once spinning. Im sure there are Dynastarts around (2nd hand)

Cheers

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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
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I have been looking, but to no avail...will keep on looking, but I have to believe that AC Delco must have a replacement part that would do the trick!

Chris

Steve Birch steve@... wrote: That is how you should start the engine, lift decompression lever and
let drop once spinning. Im sure there are Dynastarts around (2nd hand)

Cheers

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albinvega1493

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Dec 15, 2006
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I put a rebuilt Yanmar 2GMF in my vega. Nice fit. I made some adapter
plates to make it fit. Bought it for just over $3500 including
shipping, motor mounts, and driveline saver, from an engine rebuilder
in Wisconsin. She will do between 6 and 7 knots full throttle, 5 knots
at 2800rpm. Just came back from a long weekend cruise and had headwind
both ways so used the motor a total of 10 hours, used about 5 gal of
fuel. I have had her under the Golden Gate Bridge against a tide of 4
knots and a stiff headwind and still make headway. You can see pics of
the install in the photo section under vega1493. I used a 13x13.5
prop. Very happy with the engine and the install. The rebuilder is Al
Holzer at schooner bay marina in Wisconsin. Phone number is 715-779-
3266. He also advertises on dieselenginetrader.com. The engine came
with 1 year warranty. He is an honest fair rebuilder. He also had 1GM
and 2GM20 engines. Saved a bundle but still have a great engine. I
sent him my old MD6A so he might have that rebuilt by now if you are
looking for an exact replacement.
 
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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
227
Thanks Larry,

I may give him a buzz or drop him an email. I took out the starter motor this weekend and will have it bench tested to see what is up. The engine itself has run wonderfully...when running...just can't seem to figure out why she won't start.

Incedentally, I met a gentlemand who is a fellow Vega owner at our club and he recently put in a 2GM in his (two seasons ago). Said that it cost him a fortune, but that there is no price one can place on turning the key and knowing that the engine will start every time! he has been very happy with his Yanmar.

Chris

Larry Bissell albinvega1493@... wrote:
I put a rebuilt Yanmar 2GMF in my vega. Nice fit. I made some adapter
plates to make it fit. Bought it for just over $3500 including
shipping, motor mounts, and driveline saver, from an engine rebuilder
in Wisconsin. She will do between 6 and 7 knots full throttle, 5 knots
at 2800rpm. Just came back from a long weekend cruise and had headwind
both ways so used the motor a total of 10 hours, used about 5 gal of
fuel. I have had her under the Golden Gate Bridge against a tide of 4
knots and a stiff headwind and still make headway. You can see pics of
the install in the photo section under vega1493. I used a 13x13.5
prop. Very happy with the engine and the install. The rebuilder is Al
Holzer at schooner bay marina in Wisconsin. Phone number is 715-779-
3266. He also advertises on dieselenginetrader.com. The engine came
with 1 year warranty. He is an honest fair rebuilder. He also had 1GM
and 2GM20 engines. Saved a bundle but still have a great engine. I
sent him my old MD6A so he might have that rebuilt by now if you are
looking for an exact replacement.
 
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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
227
Thanks Larry,

I may give him a buzz or drop him an email. I took out the starter motor this weekend and will have it bench tested to see what is up. The engine itself has run wonderfully...when running...just can't seem to figure out why she won't start.

Incedentally, I met a gentleman who is a fellow Vega owner at our club and he recently put in a 2GM in his (two seasons ago). Said that it cost him a fortune, but that there is no price one can place on turning the key and knowing that the engine will start every time! he has been very happy with his Yanmar.

Chris

Larry Bissell albinvega1493@... wrote:
I put a rebuilt Yanmar 2GMF in my vega. Nice fit. I made some adapter
plates to make it fit. Bought it for just over $3500 including
shipping, motor mounts, and driveline saver, from an engine rebuilder
in Wisconsin. She will do between 6 and 7 knots full throttle, 5 knots
at 2800rpm. Just came back from a long weekend cruise and had headwind
both ways so used the motor a total of 10 hours, used about 5 gal of
fuel. I have had her under the Golden Gate Bridge against a tide of 4
knots and a stiff headwind and still make headway. You can see pics of
the install in the photo section under vega1493. I used a 13x13.5
prop. Very happy with the engine and the install. The rebuilder is Al
Holzer at schooner bay marina in Wisconsin. Phone number is 715-779-
3266. He also advertises on dieselenginetrader.com. The engine came
with 1 year warranty. He is an honest fair rebuilder. He also had 1GM
and 2GM20 engines. Saved a bundle but still have a great engine. I
sent him my old MD6A so he might have that rebuilt by now if you are
looking for an exact replacement.
 
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pelagicasd

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Jan 28, 2001
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Hi Hans, Where was the delamination? My surveyor suspected the same so he took a core sample. Drilled a hole with a hole saw to see if it could be pulled apart. It passed and I put a deplth sounder transducer in the hole. WaltTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: hans_fleischner@...: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 06:04:10 +0000Subject: [AlbinVega] Albin Vega Wanted

1977 or newer, with a good gelcoat on deck and hull, please.Had a promising one from Idaho surveyed that turned out to have major delamination problems, so found a really clean one in Nova Scotia and am having it surveyed this week. If anyone knows of one in the U.S. or closer to the West coast, please let me know, as the transportation and border logistics are expensive and daunting, especially with winter closing in. All leads appreciated.Thanks,Hans
 
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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
227
Hey everyone!

I can't wait to get this engine fixed, then I won't have to be such a pest, but I guess that is what the group is for right??? :)

I removed the starter motor this weekend (only took me two hours). The mounting bracket is ridiculous, and you have to remove the air intake silencer and the small box that is mounted on the crankcase (ventilator?) so you can get a tool behind the darned thing. There is roughly 1/4" space between the engine compartment wall and the starter motor...talk about cramped!!! But after some head scratching, advanced yoga poses and a few upside down gymnastics, I had the starter off and ready to be bench tested.

Prior to taking it out, I tested for voltage and current with the multimeter. Tried to check for ground, etc... Everything seemed to be OK. There was power going to the motor as far I my limited knowledge could tell. I tried jumping the motor directly using some jumper cables, and all I got was sparks...the motor did not want to turn. Not sure if this was right or not, but a few suggested that I try this. I think the spark could indicate that there are, in fact, problems with the starter itself.

Now, should the bench test come back with results that are unfavorable, does anyone know of a reputable and timely place that services these units in the Northeast (USA)? Has anyone had one of these rebuilt? I would like to try doing the brushes and possibly repacking the bearings myself....as it could be a good experience..even if I flub it up somehow. Heck, the thing is broken anyway!!

Any suggestions at this point would be appreciated. I would love to get this thing fixed before I have to haul her this season.

Many Thanks
Chris
 
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albinvega1493

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Dec 15, 2006
139
David,

I think the one recommended by yanmar for the vega with a 2GM is a
16x9 or 16x8, but obviously that one will not fit in the space
alloted. Mine is a 13 diameter x 13.5 pitch 3 blade. Top rpm is
about 3550 or 3600 rpm.

Larry
 
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albinvega1493

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Dec 15, 2006
139
Chris,

I am an auto mechanic teacher so I will give it a shot. Sounds to me
like the bearings are worn out in the starter and the armature is
contacting the field coils and preventing the starter from turning.
Hence the sparks. If you get sparks and a buzzing sound like it is
trying to turn, that is most likely the cause. Most any reputable
starter/alternator rebuild shop would be able to repair the starter. I
would not try to rebuild it yourself unless you have the proper tools
and knowledge. It is possible that all it needs is brushes and maybe
bearings. Even then, it is almost as cheap to have a
starter/alternator rebuild shop do it, usually with a warranty to
boot. Check your yellow pages for Starters/Alternator rebuilders. It
may be under automotive electronics. Good luck.

Larry
 
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groundhogyh

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May 30, 2006
1,075
You guys are all talking about how fast you go... It is making me jealous. You guys are knot millionares! I only go 3.5 knotts MAX flat water. The engine is screaming at me.

I looked up the specs on the MD6A. It's stated max on RPMs is 2400 for shorter periods. If you are motoring for long periods, you reduce that by at least 300 RPM.

With such a low speed motor, one would think you would need one heck of a prop to move a boat at the proper speeds with these low RPMs.

Sounds like a 3 blade prop to me (although I'm just a beginner).
And maybe a 3 blade prop with some larger wingspan.

Any Comments??

Roy
ps. My prop is a 2 blade, fixed-no combi. I have no tachometer yet, but seems like I'm getting at least 2000 RPM, that's like idle.
 
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stevebirch2002

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Nov 8, 2001
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If your engine is ok (MD6A), clean hull and matched prop then you should
easily get 5 - 6 kts in flat water. If not you have something very
wrong!

Steve B
 
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rchrdcoe

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Dec 11, 2007
179
- - port st. lucie,fl.
Roy-
I have the same setup as you. On my previous Vega that had a Combi,
with a gas engine, It seemed to me to be faster. I attributed that
to the increased efficiency of the Combi?
Richard V1812
 
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wxt8981

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Oct 31, 2019
562
Hi.:
it's not always the RPMs that make the boat move. My old
Albin21 gas engine ran at about 1200 RPM; that means the
prop had the same RPMs, since there was no
transmission.That Albin engine pushed the boat about 6.5
mph. I have now a Yanmar1GM, it idles at about 800 RPM, and
runs best at 3000 RPM and at these revolutions it pushes
the boat also about 6.5 mph.
A word about speed: I'm using the term mph, that is not the
same as knots. 6.5 mph in knots is only about 5.6 knots
(nautical miles as compared to statute miles).
Back to the prop: A prop must be designed for the engine's
RPM (and HP).
I think a Vega has a hull speed of about 6.5 mph. It
wouldn't do much good to put a big engine on a Vega- unless
one doesn't care about fuel consumption. If the speed
through the water is 6.5 mph, and there is 2.0 mph tide
running against the boat, then the boat's speed over ground
is only 4.5 mph, no matter what size of engine is pushing
the boat.
Wilhelm, V-257
 
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