Im new to sailing going pick up a 79 oday 28 this saturday i was wondering if theres a detaild rigging diagram somewhere or a video showing how exactly to rig the boat i am also wondering weather this boat is self bailing and if not where would the bilge be located . Also in the picture i posted it looks like theres a bracket with 3 pullys can anyone tell me what they are for theres a spot directly across on the opposite side of the boat that looks like the same kind of assembly was bolted there but isnt there now. Any info is greatly appreciated
28 foot oday questions
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Welcome Bo96,
We have owned 3 Oday sailboats over quite a few years. (Actually, more years than I care to think about passing!) Never owned an Oday 28, but a 272 and an Oday 30 might be close enough to allow me to comment. The deck turning blocks in the picture are for separating the various lines that come from the mast toward the cockpit. There should be winches aft of them for use with the halyards. Halyards and perhaps reefing lines and a downhaul could go through those blocks. The lines would need to turn aft at the base of the mast. There should be some blocks there at the deck level or perhaps attached to the base of the mast. Same deal on the other side.
"......where would the bilge be located?" Pardon my comment, but it would be the lowest position within the hull. Any cockpit drains should go through the hull somewhere above the waterline. On some trailerable boats there is a tube that goes down from the forward part of the cockpit to a through-hull fitting below the waterline. The integrity of that tube and that fitting are very important to prevent leaks that would sink the boat. I do not think any cockpit drain should lead to the bilge and then rely on a bilge pump to remove the water.
31seahorse
BTW>>>>Have you been aboard the boat? Ask the person selling the boat EVERY question you can think of between now and Saturday.
We have owned 3 Oday sailboats over quite a few years. (Actually, more years than I care to think about passing!) Never owned an Oday 28, but a 272 and an Oday 30 might be close enough to allow me to comment. The deck turning blocks in the picture are for separating the various lines that come from the mast toward the cockpit. There should be winches aft of them for use with the halyards. Halyards and perhaps reefing lines and a downhaul could go through those blocks. The lines would need to turn aft at the base of the mast. There should be some blocks there at the deck level or perhaps attached to the base of the mast. Same deal on the other side.
"......where would the bilge be located?" Pardon my comment, but it would be the lowest position within the hull. Any cockpit drains should go through the hull somewhere above the waterline. On some trailerable boats there is a tube that goes down from the forward part of the cockpit to a through-hull fitting below the waterline. The integrity of that tube and that fitting are very important to prevent leaks that would sink the boat. I do not think any cockpit drain should lead to the bilge and then rely on a bilge pump to remove the water.
31seahorse
BTW>>>>Have you been aboard the boat? Ask the person selling the boat EVERY question you can think of between now and Saturday.
Thanks for the help. So the tube that could possibly sink me should be accesable from somewhere in the cockpit through a hatch or something? I have not been abord yet saturday will be the first time i see it in person so im trying to learn everything i need to know about the boat before i seal the deal so i can make sure everything is in order. The problem im haveing with getting iformation from the current owner is that he has never sailed before nor has he ever put this boat on the water so i am relying only on what i know . Is there any other things you might suggest i look for that you would concider a deal breaker?
On a boat of that age there could be a few things that are “deal breakers” depending on how much work or money you want to put into fixes. Engine condition and any wet spots in the deck would be my first places to check.
A couple of things that catch my eye in the picture you posted - (1) there seems to be some kind of irregularity in the deck around the mast step, which could mean wet core and some repairing; (2) one spreader is attached to the mast but the other isn’t in the picture - is it missing or damaged?
An O’day 28 is definitely not self-bailing. There is a bilge below the floorboards in the cabin. I don’t know if there are any videos about rigging the 28 specifically, but it’s a pretty standard rig so nothing too different from a lot of other masthead rigged single-spreader boats. 31Seahorse is right about the purpose of those turning blocks, but they’re in a strange after-market place. I don’t know how you’d be able to run a line cleanly from the mast through them to any winch.
A couple of things that catch my eye in the picture you posted - (1) there seems to be some kind of irregularity in the deck around the mast step, which could mean wet core and some repairing; (2) one spreader is attached to the mast but the other isn’t in the picture - is it missing or damaged?
An O’day 28 is definitely not self-bailing. There is a bilge below the floorboards in the cabin. I don’t know if there are any videos about rigging the 28 specifically, but it’s a pretty standard rig so nothing too different from a lot of other masthead rigged single-spreader boats. 31Seahorse is right about the purpose of those turning blocks, but they’re in a strange after-market place. I don’t know how you’d be able to run a line cleanly from the mast through them to any winch.
Sorry should have clarified - the boat itself is not self bailing but as 31seahorse said the cockpit does self-drain via 2 hoses that run from the back of the cockpit out the transom. If the boat is not covered now you’ll know if those hoses are still working. If not the water will all be in the bilge which would be overflowing. Less visible ways to sink the boat would be if any of the through hull fittings (sinks, head, or engine) are compromised. Those you wouldn’t necessarily know about until the boat is in the water.
I owned an O'Day 28 of the same vintage.
Boat is definitely not self bailing. There is a bilge and it should be accessed by lifting the floor boards in the main cabin. There should be a bilge pump there that will pump any water that might collect. Our 28 also had a manual bilge pump that was located in the cockpit.
The cock pit drains through through drains that are connected to through hull drains. They do not and should not drain into the bilge. Unless there is something wrong with the drain hoses.
You might also want to do a search in the archives of this site as you will find a number of postings related to various boats.
One source you definitely need to find and you will if you search is that there is a man named Rudy who knows everything there is to know about odays and he sells parts for them. I'm sorry but I can't recall his last name or company name but it is in the postings. He was an amazing help whenever I needed anything for the boat.
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First have you tried the O'Day section of this site? https://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php And you will see O'Day as the fourth item down.
I went there and did a search for "Rudy" and up popped a thread for Rudy at D & R Marine. He's the go to guy.
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You will have below water line penetrations for sinks and head. I'd get some help looking at it with a sailor first.
I think the other spreader comes with the boat I believe it's in this picture looks like it must be damaged is this a big issue or can I just weld it back on with a strong back and be fine? I would love to bring a sailor with me to check out the boat that would be ideal but because I live in a place where there are no sailors I won't be able to do that I will definitely check out that guy Rudy though if he knows as much as you guys say they are maybe he can fill the gaps on any other questions I may have thanks again for all the help to everyone.
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This is almost all the pictures I have of the boat feel free to let me know if you see anything that is not right. I also forgot to mention that the rudder is broken in half but he is giving me the old rudder so I was planning on taking measurements off of it and either making a wooden one or an aluminum one and using the hardware from the old rudder
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looks like O'Day 27. 28 is a keel stepped with t-shaped cockpit. 27 is a very nice sailing boat from what I understand.
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=858
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=858
A boat that size on a trailer will be a challenge to move with your tow vehicle and a challenge to raise the mast, launch and retrieve each time you take it to the water. If kept in the water at a dock/marina/mooring you will be able to save off season storage fees by bringing the boat home if you have room to park it or if you can store it on the trailer at a storage location. (For example less haul-out and jackstand/blocking fees)
At first glance there are several (many) changes to the interior. More repairs and finish work are necessary, I believe. The boat seems to be outboard motor powered due to the motor mount on the port stern. That will limit the number of through hull fittings that might be in the hull below the waterline. Check the areas under the side bunks, the v-berth, the quarter berths, and under the galley cabinets for the location of any such fittings. Each that you find should have a ball valve type shut off just inside the hull. Gate valves with a round twist open/shut handle is not an ideal valve.
If this boat was not used by the current owner you should ask "why". There is always more work to do than you think there is at first glance or visit to the boat. Ask yourself whether you are willing and capable of the repairs and finish work. It is a project boat. (As most older boats are.) Is the trailer road capable? Tires, wheel bearings, brakes on at least one axle. It is often more difficult to stop a boat on a trailer than to pull it.
At first glance there are several (many) changes to the interior. More repairs and finish work are necessary, I believe. The boat seems to be outboard motor powered due to the motor mount on the port stern. That will limit the number of through hull fittings that might be in the hull below the waterline. Check the areas under the side bunks, the v-berth, the quarter berths, and under the galley cabinets for the location of any such fittings. Each that you find should have a ball valve type shut off just inside the hull. Gate valves with a round twist open/shut handle is not an ideal valve.
If this boat was not used by the current owner you should ask "why". There is always more work to do than you think there is at first glance or visit to the boat. Ask yourself whether you are willing and capable of the repairs and finish work. It is a project boat. (As most older boats are.) Is the trailer road capable? Tires, wheel bearings, brakes on at least one axle. It is often more difficult to stop a boat on a trailer than to pull it.
That's what I was just going to say. That's a 25. Check those bulkheads and everything else for leaks and soft decks.....
The cockpit and galley look all wrong for an O'Day 28, but look just like my 1976 O'Day 25. The rudder on the O'Day 25 is stern mounted on the O'day 28 it is keel hung with a penetration through the cockpit deck for the tiller.
The toe rail looks like it is modeled into the deck capped with teak, is that on newer O'day 25s?
The toe rail looks like it is modeled into the deck capped with teak, is that on newer O'day 25s?
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I will definitely check all those things before the papers get signed the guy says supposedly the trailer is in good shape I will check that also. Not too worried about hauling it beings I own a big truck that's not a big deal for me here's another picture of the stern if that might help identify what this boat actually is
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I agree with the others that it’s not a 28. 25 looks about right. As has been said it’s definitely a “project boat”, so be sure you’re willing to put in the work and that it’s priced accordingly.
That is a 25, $4500 is an ok price but sure looks like not in ready to sail condition, especially the interior. The bulkheads are almost certainly rotted at the chain plates. What are the numbers under the blue strips at the side?
Rudy want over $1k for a new rudder, or Rudder Craft has some nice options.
http://drmarine.com/products.asp?cat=182
https://ruddercraft.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=53
I paid $2,500 for my 76 and it was ready to sail but still had projects to fix. I'd peg the trailer value at $1,500 - $2 if it has new tires, brakes and needs nothing. That said I'd be going at least a grand cheaper then his asking price, that interior is a mess, the extra plates on the stern are concerning that they were patch to fix a rotted transom as others have reported is an issue.
Oh BTW I think a O'Day 25 is a nice first boat size, I do like mine but new and no project goes according to plan even on a sail ready boat...
Rudy want over $1k for a new rudder, or Rudder Craft has some nice options.
http://drmarine.com/products.asp?cat=182
https://ruddercraft.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=53
I paid $2,500 for my 76 and it was ready to sail but still had projects to fix. I'd peg the trailer value at $1,500 - $2 if it has new tires, brakes and needs nothing. That said I'd be going at least a grand cheaper then his asking price, that interior is a mess, the extra plates on the stern are concerning that they were patch to fix a rotted transom as others have reported is an issue.
Oh BTW I think a O'Day 25 is a nice first boat size, I do like mine but new and no project goes according to plan even on a sail ready boat...
Yes I realize this now I spoke with the current owner and we have confirmed that it is a 25-footer