1979 O' Day 23 Mast Mount Area

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Sep 21, 2011
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Oday 23 Traverse City
I have a 1979 O'Day 23 and have noticed on the mast mount area that one of the bolts is not accessible due to the fact it is covered by the inside port side wall ans mast support beam. Has anyone had any experience repair this (my bolt is loose and I cannot access the nut. Also I am experiencing water seepage through the 4 bolts. I am going to remove the bolts then caulk in and around both sides. I would expect that would stop that issue. Please let me know how to access the bolt referenced above.

As always thanks for the help.

J
 
Oct 10, 2009
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Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
I believe some people have been able to access that last bolt to tighten it, but I couldn't. You may have to remove the bulkhead to get at it, which is not a huge job, but you have to take the mast down to re-bed the mast step and/or remove your bulkheads.
 
Sep 21, 2011
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Oday 23 Traverse City
Thanks. I have noticed the 2x4 that creates the doorway to the v bunks has rotted at the bottom so will have to replace that. Have you dealt with that? Also would it wise to possibly abandon the hidden bolt and drill a new one?

To the last post - how did you access your bolt then?

Thanks as always for the help. I sure would be lost without this forum
 
Oct 10, 2009
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Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
I don't think you should abandon the hidden bolt. It's one of four that are going through the mast step and it's location is determined by the location of the holes on the mast step. IMO, the bigger source of leaks may be the hole where the electric wire passes through the cabin top. It's in the same area and mine is a half inch diameter. Filled it with butyl tape and it's good to go.

Is the compression post rotted? On mine, upon removing it I found the end grain was impregnated, possibly with epoxy. It was discolored but not soft. If yours is soft, it's just a hunk of Ash and can be recreated.
 
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May 31, 2004
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Catalina 28 Branford
To the last post - how did you access your bolt then?

Thanks as always for the help. I sure would be lost without this forum

I did so by using the lazy boater's methodology for avoiding rebedding hardware: I covered the head of the bolt with sealant. Ugly? Yes. Effective? I think so, at least in the short term. But I was not about to undertake what for me would be the major effort of removing the bulkhead. If the bolt is acually loose, you may not have a choice. I just wanted to make sure that the mast step plate was not the source of some leaks.
 
Jul 19, 2011
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Chaser 29, Oday 23, Port Elgin, Ontario
Me too

My 23 was the exact same way..... A little mushy under the step too. There were tell-tale cracks underneath in the roof of the cabin as well.
I pulled all the bolts, upsized 1/16 in size. The hidden one was a lag bolt so I upsized that by 1/8" in dia. Let me backup a bit... I was going to cut the deck up and replace the core etc.... someone had previously messed that job up so it would have been out of my scope of handiness. So, I pressed some thinned epoxy into the gap left, redrilled, and mounted a Prop or compression rod. ( I've found there are a few names for this little mod).
So, here are some pics of the finished product...... works perfectly!!!!!!!
 

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Jul 19, 2011
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Chaser 29, Oday 23, Port Elgin, Ontario
Oh.... Please dont forget to rebed the heads of the bolts properly with Butyl !!
 
Nov 5, 2010
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Oday 23 Stonington, CT
Since my boat was out of the water for all last season, and I was replacing the bulkheads and vertical support, I unbolted the mast step and found that water had rotted some of the balsa core. It would have been nice if O'Day had not used balsa core here, rather solid glass. But whatever, what I did was keep the rain off, let it bake in the hot sun, and with a curved wire (thin coat hanger) dug out the rotted balsa I could reach. I let it bake for much of the summer, then I injected epoxy in and let the core soak it up several times. (Before I did this I caulked the mast step thru bolt holes with silicone from the bottom. You have to make sure the silicone goes up past the liner, but no more. If you go too little you'll be pouring endless epoxy between the cabin top and liner). When I could inject/pour no more, over several sessions, I let it cure and re-drilled the mast step holes. Now if they ever leak, the moisture will not reach core. The mast wire was/is a problem as it was not done very well. Instead of feeding thru the hollow bulkhead rib, they smashed the wire between the liner and cabin top and fed it up thru a hole in the deck. Again, another place for water intrusion to the balsa core. I fed new wire inside the rib on the aft side of the bulkhead, through a new hole. I did the same thing with epoxy so now the mast wire feeds thru solid epoxy, and if it leaks, I won't like it, but at least it won't be ruining the core of the cabin top.
 
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Sep 21, 2011
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Oday 23 Traverse City
What do you mean by rebeding? Sorry very new to this. I got the mast mount off and of course discovered a little bit of rot. I have scrapped it out and am going to put filler in then seal it all up with 5200 sealant. Any objections? Also the bolts for the mast mount are a Phillips on top and locking bolt on bottom I plan to replace these with standard stainless steel bolt so I can torque them down better. Any objections to this?

Thanks again!
 
Oct 2, 2008
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Island Packet 31 Brunswick, Ga
Jclark29 said:
What do you mean by rebeding? Sorry very new to this. I got the mast mount off and of course discovered a little bit of rot. I have scrapped it out and am going to put filler in then seal it all up with 5200 sealant. Any objections? Also the bolts for the mast mount are a Phillips on top and locking bolt on bottom I plan to replace these with standard stainless steel bolt so I can torque them down better. Any objections to this?

Thanks again!
Gets some butyl rubber from mainsaile.
 

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Oct 10, 2009
1,051
Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
I used butyl tape on my mast step. 5200 is too permanent. Basically, rebedding is how you will keep water from penetrating. Areas of your deck where something passes all the way through need to be sealed in some way to prevent leaks.
There is a great tutorial in the site by Mainesail, who also sells butyl tape for just this kind of task.
 
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