12 volt HD TV. does any one make one that is reasonably priced?

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Jun 2, 2004
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Oday 25 pittsburgh
Yes, the VHS has weather, but the best local weather is from the local tv station.
Does anyone one have a good 12 volt HD TV they can recommend?
r.w.landau
 
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Recess

I cannot speak of the quality but...

I did a few searches and for this price ($339)for an 15" HDTV/DVD combo that runs off 12 volts, I would be tempted to take a chance. Or at the least know there are some reasonable priced units out there.

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/15-Inch-AC-DC-1080i-ATSC-Flat-Panel-LCD-HDTV-w-DVD/2829768/product.html
 

Manny

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Oct 5, 2006
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Hunter 82? 37 Cutter Wherever the wind takes me
If you have a tv already...

You could just get the converter box. I saw an article recently (Boat US magazine I think) about a 12v converter box. It was about $60 but eligible for the government coupon.

Manny
 
Nov 28, 2004
209
Hunter 310 San Pedro
HD 12 Volt TV

Jensen makes a 21" HD LCD Digital 12 volt tv for marine and RV use.
 
Dec 17, 2006
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HD TV DVD AC/DC

http://cgi.ebay.com/15-AC-DC-1080i-ATSC-LCD-HDTV-with-DVD-PLAYER-SC-1556_W0QQitemZ300259078782QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3320QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
Audiovox too

The FPE1906DV is 12 volt (neutered cable of course), has a DVD player and can be used as a computer monitor. I mounted mine on a swivel on the nav station and it works great.
 
M

Maine Sail

Yes they do..

Bought a Polaroid 19" with built in DVD at Target for about $329.00. Will run on 12V or 120 (not designed to but the 120V AC adapter drops the voltage down to 12V DC.. Model is: TDX-01930B: 19" HD LCD TV/DVD Combo.

Has worked great for watching "Elmo" videos..;)
 
M

Maine Sail

Yes they do....

Bought a Polaroid 19" with built in DVD at Target for about $329.00. Will run on 12V or 120 (not designed to but the 120V AC adapter drops the voltage down to 12V DC.. Model is: TDX-01930B: 19" HD LCD TV/DVD Combo.

Has worked great for watching "Elmo" videos..;)

Target: TDX-01930B: 19" HD LCD TV/DVD Combo
 

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Jim

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May 21, 2007
775
Catalina 36 MK II NJ
Sail Maine, is this a 12 DC TV

or are you using an inventor?

If you are using an inventor then this is not a good pick. The TV was designed to run on 12 DC.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
12 vdc

Jim, this unit comes with a wall muffin that drops the voltage to 12vdc. Mainesail simply eliminated the converter and wired it directly to his 12vdc supply. So yes, this is a 12v TV.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,818
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
What's Better

Just wondering which one waste more 12 volts using a 12 tv with a converter or
a 120 TV plugged into a 2500 watt inverter built into the boat.
Nick
 
Dec 11, 2005
74
Pearson 30 Wanderer NA
The cheapest solution--if you have a laptop--

would be to by a USB HD device. I've never seen one work but woot had one for sale last week for 89$.
 
Jun 1, 2004
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Digital Antennae requirement

As Manny stated below, analog TV broadcast will cease February 2009. That means you will need to have a digital connection to receive the digital broadcast. If you have cable or satellite at the docks you are golden, just plug in and enjoy Sponge Bob Square Pants. However, if you are out at the cape or your favorite anchorage and want to check the local weather on broadcast TV, you will need the digital converter box that connects between your antennae and your TV. I have not heard of any of the digital converter boxes being 12V DC, but that doesn’t mean they are not or could be converted. I don’t know. You will have to check that out. If not, you will need the Inverter anyways to plug your digital converter in.
 
M

Maine Sail

Sorry to be so...

Confusing..

Quote: "What's Better Just wondering which one waste more 12 volts using a 12 tv with a converter or a 120 TV plugged into a 2500 watt inverter built into the boat."

The same Polaroid TV I mentioned bellow will draw more running through an inverter, tested it both ways, than it will when plugged directly into the ships 12V DC system. Inverters are much more inefficient than plugging directly into a 12V source if the device already steps 120V AC down to 12V DC by using a "wall wort".


I don't know what you mean by a 12V TV with a "converter"? A 12V TV or rather a 120V AC TV that when on 120V AC uses a "wall wort" to step the voltage down to 12V DC only uses that when plugged into 120V AC.

When flat panel LCD TV's first came out, in smaller sizes, most companies used a "wall wort" or basically a step down device to convert AC to DC as most of these small TV's actually run on DC not AC even though they plug into an AC outlet. Manufacturers have since begun eliminating the "wall worts" due to customer complaints about "wall mounting" the TV and being able to hide this step down device. This does not mean the TV's don;t still run on DC but the conversion from AC to DC is now hidden inside the unit making it tough to find LCD TV's than can be made to run on 12 volts

Just because a TV has a "wall wort" it does not necessarily mean it will run on a 12V system if you bypass the AC to DC converter. Some TV's step down to 18V, 24V, 10V etc. etc. so you need to real schematics and specs on line or physically follow the cord at retailers until you find the "wall wort" and read that the output voltage is 12V DC. This is what I did until I found a TV that had a built in DVD and that also ran on 120v AC or 12V DC.

To wire in my TV I simply bypassed the 120V to 12V converter all together and bought a plug & cord set at Radio Shack that matched the one on the back of the TV and then wired it directly to my boats 12V system. We've run the TV at voltages from the low 12's to full alternator bulk charge voltages and it works flawlessly. The benefit we get is that in the winter when i remove all teh electronics from the boat I'll bring the TV home and we get a 19" 1080 HD TV in the bedroom...
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
HD reception

An analog antenna on an HD TV will pickup broadcast HD. No cable or satellite is necessary. Of course you will only get local stations.
 
M

Maine Sail

Jim (Oriental)..

Quote: "However, if you are out at the cape or your favorite anchorage and want to check the local weather on broadcast TV, you will need the digital converter box that connects between your antennae and your TV."


Most any new HD TV R.W. Landau would buy, unless he finds some really , really old stock, will have the DTV receiver built in.

My 42" Plasma TV is now three years old (and I paid way too much for it) and even three years ago it had the DTV tuner built in. DTV converter boxes are ONLY for older TV's new ones don't require it and can plug into an analog antenna and work fine..

As Tim mentioned the TV I recommended has it built in. The whole package runs on 12v..
 

Jim

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May 21, 2007
775
Catalina 36 MK II NJ
I still don't understand

Sorry, but the spec don't say 12 DC operation anywhere. I would think they would because it is a selling point for boats and RVs. I wonder if it doesn't because of power usage or other factors. Still, I can find 12 DC in the specs any where...

See below:

• Experience Intense Color and Amazing Visual Detail
• 19" Screen TV/DVD Combo with LCD Technology
• Displays Resolutions up to 1080i
• High Definition with Built-In HDTV/ATSC Tuner
• ATSC Built-In
• Video Features: Widescreen Viewing Angles, HDMI/HDCP Interface, 3:2 - 2:2 Pull Down, 3D Y/C Comb Filter for a Distortion-Free Picture
• Audio Features: Sound Balance, Simulated Surround Sound Circuitry, MP3 Playback, Selectable Sound Modes, Dolby Digital Surround Sound, Sound Enhancement
• Wall Mounting, Progressive Scan DVD Player, Closest Resolution to Fine Quality Pictures, 3D Comb Filter, High Contrast and Brightness, VESA Standard Mounting System, Rich Colors with Sharp Images, Removable Desktop Stand, No Burned-In Images, Low Power Consumption
• Inputs: 1 Audio M3 Jack, S-Video for Clean and Crisp Video, 2 HDMI/HDCP Video, VGA Connects to Computers, YPrPb Component Video, 15-Pin D-Sub for Use with Computer Monitors, 2 RCA Composite A/V, Optical Digital
• Outputs: Headphone
• On-Screen Diagonal LCD Widescreen, Hi Resolution Panel, English/Spanish/French Menu Languages, Displays Date and Time, HD Display, HDMI-HDCP Interface, Channel Display, Clock Display, TFT Liquid Crystal Display, On-Screen Menu Display, Closed Caption
• 16:9 Widescreen Aspect Ratio
• Contrast Ratio: 1000:1
• 8ms Response Time
• 2 Speakers Front-Panel Speakers
• Operational Features: ATSC/QAM Tuners for HDTV Broadcasts, Sleep Timer, 3-Line Digital Comb Filters, Built-In Tuner, On-Screen Adjustment Menu, Auto Programming, 3D Y/C Comb Filter, Digital Tuner, V-Chip Parental Control, 181 Channel NTSC Tuner
• Operational Modes: 250 CD/M2 Brightness
• Additional Functions: MP3 Player, CD Player, DVD Player
• Compatible with MP3s, DVD+R/RW, SD Card, CDs, DVD-R/RW, 108i/720p/480i/480p Resolution Specs/Video Modes, Kodak Picture CD, JPEG Formats
• Viewing Angles: 160x170
• TV Mount Features: VESA 100 Mounting Pattern, Built-In Stand, Easy to Install, Can Be Wall Mounted, Detachable Base Stand
• Memory Card Features: High Storage Capacity
• Accessories Included: 2 AAA Batteries, Power Cord, Operation Manual, Remote Control, Component Video Cable, User Manual, Warranty Card, Composite A/V Cable, Detachable Base Stand, Quick Use Guide
• Additional Accessories Required: Cable or Satellite to Show TV Content
• 1 Year Warranty
• 17.98" x 5.31" x 14.56"
• 11.66 lbs.
 

Jim

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May 21, 2007
775
Catalina 36 MK II NJ
I found this review on the TV

I still can find any 12 DC ops...

pabucksguy's Full Review: Polaroid TDX-01930B 19 in. HDTV LCD TV TV/DVD Comb...
I recently purchased the Polaroid TDX-01930B LCD TV on sale for $279. At this price I can recommend it, but I certainly would not pay the going rate of $350 for the TV.

The Bad:
The picture quality is marginal, and simply does not compare well with any semi-major brand including inexpensive brands such as Westinghouse. Even the high-def channels do not look fantastic.

Regardless of if you have a DVD in the player, when you start the tv, the device begins spinning, and makes a loud noise for the first 30 seconds of operartion, the drive will then finish spinning up and all will be okay.

The sound quality is pretty poor. Absolutely no depth or bass in this tv, reminds me of very loud laptop speakers.

The Good

This TV does have a built in QAM tuner, so you can receive over the air broadcasts in HD, and with some cable companies (Comcast) you can get select tv channels in HD, though the numbers for them are odd (channel 29.1, 6.1, etc.) The channel line up is completely up to your cable provider, and they usually only provide the broadcast channels (pbs, abc, cbs, fox, nbc) in a high def format. However, being able to get those channels without a separate digital tuner box (that you need to rent) is a big plus.

Overall, the TV is easy to set up, and with the built in DVD player you have a lot less wires and devices to worry about. Using the DVD player is very easy, so ideal for plopping kids in front of it, without having to worry about extra remote controls and such. You do however need to change the input on the tv to watch the DVD player, it does not automatically switch when you pop a disk in.

The TV also will pull station information from the broadcast, such as id of the channel and the name of the program. It is a nice feature, however, you cannot scroll through the channel lineup to see what is on other channels, you actually have to change the channel and surf to each channel.

I would only recommend this tv in a spare guest bedroom, as it is not something you would want to watch daily. It is acceptable for a guest room because it is compact, has some nice features, and has the built-in dvd player.


Recommended:
No

Amount Paid (US$): 250
 
M

Maine Sail

Jim I'm sorry..

if your reading comprehension is just not getting my statements. In fact for the last month or so you have been nitpicking every single one of my posts, usually with zero data to back up your points?

I'll type slow so you get it this time...

This TV is designed and sold as a 120V TV! However, if you are a savvy buyer, and follow the cord on the TV's display, in the store, and then read the "wall wort", it says right on it "Input 120v AC output 12V DC". When I get home from work I'll take a picture just for you!! This TV was, and is NOT, marketed as a 12V TV but it DOES operate on 12V if you are in the least bit mechanical and can think outside the box so to speak.

Polaroid does not advertise it as a 12V model and perhaps that is their failing but adding a 12V power cord may price them out of the "home" market. I can;t say it any clearer this TV operates on 12 volts DC. You are welcome to come to Maine any time and follow my TV's wires right back to the 12V panel. Once your doubts have been satisfied your free to watch as many episodes of Sesamee Street as you'd like all on 12 volts..;)

I'm glad you could find a bad review and it certainly shows off your google prowess and skill. Sure, you can find a bad review or maybe even hundreds, for this TV on the net but just realize that just about every single product made has a bad review somewhere.

I do disagree with most of the reviewers points. Sure if I compare the picture to my Pioneer Elite plasma TV it is not so good but then again I paid about $2900.00 less for the Polaroid than I did my Pioneer!! My Polaroid DOES NOT spin the DVD upon turning it on and the sound is perfectly adequate if you go into settings and adjust the bass up to +2.

My biggest complaint, and it was pointed out in the review, is that when you load a DVD it does not automatically switch over to the DVD input and it need to be done manually.

R.W. Asked about a cheap TV for a boat the Polaroid I have is about the cheapest TV/DVD you can find that will run on 12 volts in the 19" size. I actually paid $269.00 for it but for some reason Target is now selling it for $329.00??? Granted he does not need a DVD but that just means you should be able to find a TV that will run on 12V (not necessarily sold as such) for even less money than I paid..

Polaroids web site sucks and does not offer schematics or any sort of real specs beyond general features. However if you read these forums or "knowledge base" if you will you'll learn that this TV can in fact be run on 12V.. Reading is knowledge.....;););)
 
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