When to shut down the Iron Genny

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  1. DayDreamer41

    DayDreamer41

    Joined Oct 29, 2016
    1,346 posts, 674 likes
    Hunter 41 DS
    Un Port Huron
    Yesterday, we headed out for the first race of the season, as approaching the starting area (about a mile out or so) I idled the engine and launched the sails. I hailed the committee boat to state my intentions of which they acknowledged. The committee announced a delay of about an hour to the start #1 due to the lack of wind (and it was dead). I decided at the that point why not just sail/float toward the line, well an hour passed and we were probably further away that when we first launched the sails.
    My question and I have looked through the rules and can't seem to find anything which addressed this, could I have restarted the engine and powered to a point closer to the line for our start #3? if so what are the limitations to doing this? how close could I have got - 300 yds? Which RRS addresses this?
     


  2. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
    4,032 posts, 955 likes
    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY
    Yes you can. The engine must be shut off or in neutral at your Warning signal. That is when they raise the class flag and signal one horn. Remember that there is a sound signal when the AP (Postpone flag) is taken down. Depending on SI's it can be one, or maybe two to the first Warning. And if you're not the first class starting, you may have more time before you have to shut off the motor. In light to nonexistent air you want to stay near the line but you want to be able to get away from the line to not interfere with other classes starting - and in particular in very light air not disturb their air. Note: I answer questions like this without reference to RRS to see if I can get the correct answer - sort of a self test. It can be confusing enough at a start, there isn't time to refer to RRS.
    Look up definition of Racing in RRS
     


  3. Davidasailor26

    Davidasailor26

    Joined May 17, 2004
    1,786 posts, 474 likes
    Beneteau Oceanis 37 LE
    US Havre de Grace
    So close. Exactly right that you can't use propulsion while you're racing, so that's the key definition. The only thing is that racing is defined as starting at the preparatory signal (generally 4 minutes), not the Warning signal (generally 5 minutes).
     


  4. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
    4,032 posts, 955 likes
    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY
    Swing and a miss...
     


  5. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    Last edited: May 27, 2019
  6. DayDreamer41

    DayDreamer41

    Joined Oct 29, 2016
    1,346 posts, 674 likes
    Hunter 41 DS
    Un Port Huron
    Thanks for the clarity gents it's appreciated, will certainly know the next time.
     


  7. Sandy Stone

    Sandy Stone

    Joined Jun 2, 2007
    345 posts, 48 likes
    Beneteau First 375
    US Slidell, LA
    I don't think the document Jackdaw posted mentions one other exception, a boat may use any means of propulsion to assist a boat or person in danger.
     


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  8. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    10,442 posts, 3,443 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    While the point you make is very true, you are not granted an exception for that. In all cases you must log your position and time you start the motor (but don't let that slow you down), and after aid has been rendered, return to that spot and kill the motor, log the time and resume racing. You will need to file for redress... the PC will normally ask the scorer to adjust time.
     


    Last edited: May 28, 2019


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