Repairing Hunter 40 damage from Hurricane Matthew

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  1. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    260 posts, 142 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    I can't keep up with all the different flavors these days. I swear there are at least a couple thousand different brands/flavors of sake here in Japan :confused:. And I can't tell a bit of difference between any of them! I'll stick to Capt Morgan, thanks :)
     


  2. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    260 posts, 142 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    Well, except for that ONE piece!

    I'm trying a new thing. Been watching some refit/rebuilding videos on youtube (a few really good, some others - IMHO - not as good) and what has struck me is that the better ones publish videos on a consistent basis or schedule.

    So I thought that rather than try to blast a flurry of updates in semi-real time during my 2 week break every 2 months I would try to spread things out, filling in some of the (boat) down time while I'm in Japan. I'm still working on consistency - and failing so far! - due to weird schedules here, but by posting an update every week to 10 days you guys won't forget about me! :D

    this also is a plus for me - it gives me more time while home to concentrate on projects. Believe me, between the wife, boat, cars, cats, friends and everything else that comes up, my time at home sometimes seems like living inside a tornado!

    Cheers,

    Mark san
     


  3. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    260 posts, 142 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    Waiting until the last minute:

    So as the time neared for my return to Japan, how did my list of things go:

    Starboard side pantry and hanging locker: well underway, a few more shelves to fit for the pantry then it's ready for paint and clearcoat. I did also get some formica on the top:

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    I was worried that any water drips (this area still has a few) might stain the wood so a little added protection is a good thing.

    Port side hanging locker and closet: haha, not a chance! This is near the top of the list for January.

    Cabin top hand rails: All the parts arrived but my canvas/stainless guy was in the middle of his semi-annual rush (ICW folks stopping in for work) and he couldn't get the rails cut and bent in time. They are done, waiting for me. I did get the old rails off, holes epoxied, sanded and painted, ready for the new gear. Top of the list for January, if for no other reason than to keep parts & pieces from accumulating and gathering dust.

    Windlass and forward deck area: Success! This is where the last minute thing came in - after removing the windlass I had to fill the hole and finish the other patches on the foredeck. Got that done but then the weather conspired against me! The last few days home it turned cold and rainy. Luckily the forecast said clear, sunny and warm for my last day home, so:

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    Kiwi-gripped! Still a few areas of the deck to go for new non-skid but getting closer.

    Not on the list: I got the aft cabin engine cover leveled and almost ready for installation. And finally, I built and mounted the platform for the fridge so I can start on the aft galley area.

    That's it for my time home in November. I'm stuck here for Christmas & New Years, but home again early January. Fingers crossed for good weather!

    Cheers,

    Mark
     


  4. Rabe

    Rabe

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    MacGregor Venture 17
    Alexis Rose US Home
    I sure hope everything is going well. Have you been able to get much work done since Christmas?
     


  5. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    260 posts, 142 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    I was working on a big update for yesterday or today when the wife came home and said her car is making a moaning sound and it's hard to steer. So update got put off and now I'm covered in power steering fluid!

    I have gotten some work done but had a few things get in the way the last few months. All to be explained soon!

    Thanks,

    Mark
     


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  6. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

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    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    The work Mark is doing on this boat leaves me speechless. Its way beyond what I would ever be capable of, and it clear its going to be a better boat.

    But I can't stop thinking that this is going on three years, with no end in sight. And what three years of not sailing would mean to me. Maybe because I'm in my mid-50s..... still in good shape but that can't last forever. I cherish EVERY DAY on the water. So it's a cautionary tale. With enough skill and determination you can fix anything. But you can't buy time.
     


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  7. Bill19233

    Bill19233

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    437 posts, 339 likes
    Hunter 340
    US Baytown TX
    I agree with Jackdaw, your work is incredible and I look forward to your updates and photos. I have a project boat in my driveway that once in a while I get a head full of fixes and upgrades for. But, I also have a boat at the dock ready to sail and that's the boat that gets my time. While I've been out of commission for a couple months with a broken ankle, I have really missed sailing and the project boat didn't get a second thought. I am a couple months from the 401k penalty free withdrawal age and the injury has made me realize and dread that age or health will one day keep me from sailing. So, I'm really looking forward to regularly sailing and racing again on the bay in the coming weeks
    Mark, here's to you finishing your boat and having many years to sail her. And here's to sailing year round on the third coast. I would go absolutely nuts not sailing six or more months of every year.
     


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  8. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
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    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY
    A friend of mine who is older said it another way: You can always make more money but you can't make more time. Sage advice!
     


  9. garymalmgren

    garymalmgren

    Joined May 29, 2018
    66 posts, 46 likes
    Canel 25 foot
    Jonathan jp Shoigama, japan
    I guess you are based in Chiba.
    I am in Sendai. If you have a weekend off and want to come up for a festival and a sail, drop me a line


    Gary
     


  10. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    5,228 posts, 2,555 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    I’m proud of Mark-san. Seems to me he’s doing exactly what he wants to do with his boat. And his time. (With the exception of fixing a power steering system.)
     


  11. Daveinet

    Daveinet

    Joined Sep 20, 2014
    1,014 posts, 210 likes
    Rob Legg RL24
    US Chain O'Lakes
    This project always reminds me of a Mega 30 I almost bought. It needed the deck recored. The main reason I didn't take the project on was because I really didn't have the space to work on it. Kind of glad, because I know to this day, it wouldn't be done. The would have been several years lost with no sailing.
     


  12. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
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    Y’all just don’t seem to get it. Maybe this is not the same as what Mark is thinking but I have interests other than sailing that take years to pay off. The pictures attached are daylilies that I hybridized. Meaning I started them from pollen. It takes a minimum of four years to see what you get from rubbing the pollen from one bloom on the stigma of another bloom.
    And besides that, he already explained why he was taking on this project. I have every bit of respect in the world for him and what he is doing. And why the heck is anyone even coming close to criticizing him?
     

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  13. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

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    Kermit,

    You’re completely misunderstanding this. I’m not criticizing anything that he’s doing. I admire it, and it’s very clear to me that he’s enjoying what he’s doing. But make no mistake, it’s not Sailing. Those other interests you speak of, like your flowers, have that time built into them. My definition of sailing does not require years of on-the-hard work. That’s my point. This is an open internet forum, and an open respectful dialogue. Sometimes I think this place tries way too hard to police what gets said.
     


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  14. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    712 posts, 187 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    Jackdaw, your definition of sailing is far different than mine. For me, sailing is everything associated with the boat and I enjoy all of it greatly. This week I replaced my old Hood 810 with a Harken Mk IV. Made two trips up the mast to change furler and add a bunch of new toys. The last two days I have been detailing the topsides and deck so that Papillon is all beautiful. Tomorrow I deliver her to the start for the 65 NM Round Whidbey race with we will compete in on Saturday and Sunday. For me all of that is sailing and each highly enjoyable.
    I dive my own boat. I detail, wash and wax my own boat. My wife makes all of our sails and canvas. I install all of my sailing and electronic gear. I do not hire anyone to do work on my boat because to me, that is all part of the joy of sailing.
     


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  15. Kermit

    Kermit

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    Whatever.
     


  16. Rick486

    Rick486

    Joined Oct 1, 2007
    1,246 posts, 324 likes
    Hunter 44DS
    US Pt. Judith
    As hesitant as I am to wade into this subject, your post Hayden rang a bell with me. In my way of thinking there is sailing, which we do when we unfurl the sails and head for Cuttyhunk or the Vineyard. All the other stuff, some of which you touched on, I aggregate under the term "yachting". Maintenance of Maxine, cocktail parties at the slip, paging through the Defender's catalog, commissioning, storage, upgrading, shopping for new sails, going to the boat shows, diving on the keel, and so forth falls under yachting. And this ties into another active thread where the question was asked concerning what other "hobbies" we all have. Sure, I have hobbies like flight simulation, but yachting isn't a "hobby" to me. It is a life. It is the life I've lived (thank God) for over 50 years.
     


  17. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    260 posts, 142 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    I guess it's time I jumped into this conversation :):

    The way I see it, every one of you is right. Each of us has our own definition of sailing as a sport, a hobby, a lifestyle and/or a passion. And each of us enjoys sailing the way we have defined it.

    As I have explained in the past, I started Escape Velocity's rebuild maybe partly out of necessity but mostly because I thought the investment of time (moreso than money) would net a boat that would greatly exceed the sum of her parts. It would be uniquely and quintessentially mine from stem to stern, from keel to masthead. That's my goal.

    Do I miss time on the water? Sure. But when I had a fully functional boat (pre-Matthew) I never was able to get out as often as I liked. Life interfered. I also have a rather unique career where time off allocation is much different than most people and I currently live a lifestyle that on one hand restricts my time at home but on the other hand gives me blocks of time to make real progress on projects that can't be completed in a day or two. There's a real sense of accomplishment, for example, when I was able start and finish painting the hull in one go, rather than having to do a small piece one or two days at a time.

    Another consideration is my somewhat unique status re: the marina. Although the marina has now changed hands and will be rebuilt, we are over two years into not having a functioning marina. It has been a real hardship here for the people who want access to the water. Available slips have been hard to come by, and the remaining local marinas all have their ups & downs. For us on this island it has always been about close access. For me the marina is a 3 minute trip in the golf cart! That was nice before (and will be again soon!) but after Matthew there was a severe shortage of available slips locally. Some guys had to move their boats as far as Charleston. A 4 or 5 hour roundtrip just to get to your boat really takes the wind out of a day sail! For me, however, it has worked out well. I have even declined a slip in the first rebuild phase - we'll get around 20 wet slips to start - because a. even though I could put the boat back in the water now if I wanted to it really doesn't do me any good, and b. I would rather see the first set of wet slips go to the people who can use them now. Our local boating community has taken a hard hit and I want to see my fellow boaters come back so we can start rebuilding our sailing community.

    Finally the time vs. money issue: I get it. I really do, but: My goal has always been long-term, to have a boat ready and capable of cruising (remember, I'm planning central and south Pacific). I have always planned an early retirement so I can go and enjoy my cruising time while I am still (relatively ;)) young and healthy. I'm trading time on the water now for a (yes) lengthy rebuild, but the alternative, to me, doesn't work. If I had just gone out and bought a replacement boat I would have to work at least 3 or 4 years longer to pay for it. As it is now (barring any world-wide crisis) my timing is working out that the rebuild will be complete just about the same time I hit my financial goals and can sail over the horizon sipping a rum & coke. And when I go I'm not planning to come back! A replacement boat blows that plan out of the water (so to speak!).

    I conclusion, thanks for all the support, advise, tips and encouragement. I deeply appreciate everything you guys say. Now it's time for bed! Hopefully tomorrow I can finish up the first of several updates to my activities the last few months.

    Cheers,

    Mark
     


  18. JRacer

    JRacer

    Joined Aug 9, 2011
    894 posts, 317 likes
    Beneteau 310
    US Cheney KS (Wichita)
    Always good when a plan comes together, Mark. Keep after it.
     


  19. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

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    I figure I spend a 50:50 ratio of sailing to dockside maintenance, upgrades, cleaning, etc. My boat is 20 years old, is sailed and race hard, and is in better than new condition. I enjoy all of that. Sailing. But 3 years without stepping a foot on deck under sail while working on a rebuild of a totaled 40 foot boat, NOT sailing to me. Not to you either I suspect.
     


  20. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

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    The intellectual equivalent of a tap-out.