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Furling line cleat

Discussion in 'Catalina 310' started by marchem, Apr 27, 2018. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. SawyerCurt

    SawyerCurt

    Joined Dec 16, 2011
    146 posts, 14 likes
    Catalina 310
    US Atlantic Highlands
    Up here in the Northeast (or at least the NYC/NJ area), typically the yacht club launches will only pull up on the Starboard side, so the only time that line is ever a problem for me is at the fuel dock if I pull up with the Port side to the dock.
     


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  2. marchem

    marchem

    Joined Nov 16, 2012
    605 posts, 55 likes
    Catalina 310, 2000, #31
    US Santa Cruz
    Ward, the block and cam cleat provide an easier way to manage the furling line when sailing short handed, at least on the C310.
     


  3. KZW

    KZW

    Joined May 17, 2014
    545 posts, 31 likes
    Catalina 310 #307
    US Bluewater Bay, FL
    I have a cam cleat on the stanchion as shown in the previous picture. It is secured to the base of the stanchion, but held above the deck with a bungee. The sole purpose of the bungee is to prevent the cam cleat from whacking in the gel coat on the deck. The line is then led to a horn cleat on the port side of the cockpit. The cam cleat is useful in furling the head sail when single handing. It keeps it from unfurling when going for a better grip. The furling line is secured on the horn cleat. It is also secured on the horn cleat when reefed. Don't leave home without it.
    I board on the port side of the boat due to the dock set up. The furling line has never been an issue, because it is very close to the cockpit coaming when one boards and steps into the cockpit.
     


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  4. marchem

    marchem

    Joined Nov 16, 2012
    605 posts, 55 likes
    Catalina 310, 2000, #31
    US Santa Cruz
    Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear. We also board on the port side. Sounds like a nice upgrade.
     


  5. KZW

    KZW

    Joined May 17, 2014
    545 posts, 31 likes
    Catalina 310 #307
    US Bluewater Bay, FL
    Picture of cam cleat and horn cleat for furling line on port side of my C-310
     

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  6. rpwillia

    rpwillia

    Joined Sep 29, 2008
    1,723 posts, 15 likes
    Catalina 310 #185
    US Quantico
    When the sail is furled up the cam cleat is more than adequate to hold the furler secure. We can have some nasty storms on the Potomac and it has never been a problem. Plus in brisk wind when furling it is really handy to have the cam cleat in case you need to take a break in mid furl. I took the cleat that came from the factory out so it would be one less thing in the way.

    One other thing I did (this will depend on your stern pulpit[?]) was remove the fixtures that held the front straps on the bimini down to the deck and moved them onto where the safety lines attach. One less thing to trip on.
     


  7. HMT2

    HMT2

    Joined Mar 20, 2014
    543 posts, 108 likes
    Hunter 31
    US Shoreacres, TX
    Yes sir! I much prefer a horn cleat to a cam cleat.
     


  8. marchem

    marchem

    Joined Nov 16, 2012
    605 posts, 55 likes
    Catalina 310, 2000, #31
    US Santa Cruz
    That's attached on the gate, rather than the pulpit. A little farther from the wheel, but still convenient. I think I'll get the hardware, try it in both places, and see which we prefer. Thanks!!
     


  9. Tom J

    Tom J

    Joined Sep 30, 2008
    994 posts, 37 likes
    Catalina 310
    US Quincy, MA
    The C310 is normally rigged with a horn cleat for the furling line. The issue as presented in this thread, I believe, is that the helmsperson must leave the helm to manage the standard furling setup. As noted in these posts, it is difficult, if not impossible, to rig the furling line so that it doesn't pass across the boarding gate on the port side. It is a safety issue, and I instruct my crew and guests to always step ON the furling line, and not OVER it. This, I believe, is less of a tripping hazard, since a person's foot is less likely to get caught on the line.
     


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  10. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    5,248 posts, 1,679 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    @ward your sailing wisdom is solid.

    On a day Sailing dinghy/racing boat if used cam cleats for the ease of change among the many sailing configurations needed in the race.

    Cruising, even short handed sail changes are less frequent. In go for the security of a lock tied no furler release unless I act upon it cleat.

    But this is sailing. Different boat owners will rig their boat the way they want. That’s the beauty of this boating world. No one answers.
     


  11. Ward H

    Ward H

    Joined Nov 7, 2011
    1,734 posts, 169 likes
    Catalina 30 Mk II
    US Barnegat, NJ
    Rob, I'll probably understand better when I start sailing my C30. The C30 should be similar to your C310. I keep this idea on my list in case I want to do the same but would probably leave the horn cleat for when leaving the boat several days.
    On my O'day 25 everything is within easy reach but the line does run to a ratchet block on
    the rear pulpit and back forward to the horn cleat. That gives me a fairlead from center cockpit.

    On my O'day's Furlex set up, the line exits the drum on the port side but I can switch which side to run the line aft by adjusting outer line guide.
    Can you switch which side the line runs aft on?

    The few times we do side dock on the same side as the furling line, I relax it so it droops down below the combing during boarding. Then I re cleat it before leaving the dock.

    I confess when I moved to a new slip with starboard side entry mid last season, I didn't move the line. Planned to this spring but I did the next best thing. Bought a boat with the furling line already run on the port side. :)

    That and sharing those ideas with others.
    As @Stu Jackson likes to say "Your boat, Your Choice"
     


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  12. Stu Jackson

    Stu Jackson

    Joined Feb 26, 2004
    19,808 posts, 503 likes
    Catalina 34
    US Maple Bay, BC, Canada
    It only took me 19 years to figure that one out. I shoulda waited and learned about it right here! :):):)
     


  13. marchem

    marchem

    Joined Nov 16, 2012
    605 posts, 55 likes
    Catalina 310, 2000, #31
    US Santa Cruz
    I like that solution!!! ;)
     


  14. dziedzicmj

    dziedzicmj

    Joined Aug 13, 2012
    431 posts, 69 likes
    Catalina 270
    CA Ottawa
    You should be able to. Most furlers don't care. You may need to turn the fuller's drum accordingly. And of course, move the blocks on the stantions. I am afraid, though, that there is only one horn cleat (on the port side). So either, you will have to rig a cam cleat attached to the pushpit or install a horn cleat on the coaming.
     


  15. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    5,248 posts, 1,679 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    Ward... Most furlers have a specific entry point for the line. Even though the furler drum has multiple openings, if the line is led through the wrong one the line can ride over the opening and bind between the frame and the furler drum...
    Here is an example of the Harken MKIV Unit 1 drum.
    4417.jpg
    Harken let gives you two captured sides to have the line enter.
     



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