Just when you thought it was safe to go out.
http://marketinginfo.garmin.com/u/gm.php?UID=T7t87R5i2W&ID=194192573_172317_69634
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Oh, NO!
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The fine print
I bet there are more warnings/disclaimers/exclusions in the fine print than anyone can imagine. But there are idiots out there who will without any hesitation, put a destination in and go take a nap.
I bet there are more warnings/disclaimers/exclusions in the fine print than anyone can imagine. But there are idiots out there who will without any hesitation, put a destination in and go take a nap.
As many have reported over the years, the most dangerous place to be is near a buoy or something these jerks will use as a waypoint. When traveling in unusual down on the deck foggy conditions outside the Golden Gate one day I neared the buoy off Point Bonita, only to be met by a 40 foot powerboat roaring through at 25 knots. Yikes.
Regardless of the disclaimers, I'm sure a lot of people are gonna get hurt big time with this nonsense.
Regardless of the disclaimers, I'm sure a lot of people are gonna get hurt big time with this nonsense.
Why not just use a camera and sit at home on the couch and “LIVE” it without having to go outside at all?
A truly BAD idea!
Greg
A truly BAD idea!
Greg
I wish they'd invent one for my car. Imagine entering my boat yard in and taking a nap waking up at the boat!!! 
It actually sounds like a great idea if used in the planning mode only. Talk about scary, I read in this months Sail magazine about virtual navigational aids put on your chatplotter by your AIS. Can't imagine seeing a buoy on my chartplotter and not seeing it with my eyes.
It actually sounds like a great idea if used in the planning mode only. Talk about scary, I read in this months Sail magazine about virtual navigational aids put on your chatplotter by your AIS. Can't imagine seeing a buoy on my chartplotter and not seeing it with my eyes. Wow, I've almost been run down by several power boats without drivers already...Yes even in NY Harbor these a**holes don't pay attention. The last guy was mopping the deck with nobody at the helm.
We should be allowed to carry cannons to fire at the boat to avoid a collision!!!!
We should be allowed to carry cannons to fire at the boat to avoid a collision!!!!
Which is exactly why, when I was in the Bahamas last year, and saw those nice magenta lines on the charts, with waypoints, AND courses (both ways of course) I moved my boat 1 mile to port, OFF that course line. Saw way too many fast power boats running that course line (that magenta line) at 20, 25 knots . One of these days two big go fasts are gonna bash head on while both skippers are below fixing a sandwich, ( or whatever), 30 miles out on the Great Bahama Bank, and no one will know for hours. Or days.
New term I recently heard- Obliviots. Oblivious idiots
New term I recently heard- Obliviots. Oblivious idiots
How is that basically different from what we have now, except that this program has voice recognition? After all, with auto pilot you can set your waypoints and let the computer steer the boat from waypoint to waypoint. So a skipper could just as easily mop his deck or go below or whatever.
The good (?) thing is that Darwin's rule will operate here..
John, the problem is that when you set your waypoints, you'd normally see the side hazards as you do that.. here, an operator could blindly accept the route without understanding the hazards that might be close by.. I have played with the auto-routing stuff, but I don't even have my autopilot slaved to the GPS..
John, the problem is that when you set your waypoints, you'd normally see the side hazards as you do that.. here, an operator could blindly accept the route without understanding the hazards that might be close by.. I have played with the auto-routing stuff, but I don't even have my autopilot slaved to the GPS..
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As far as Darwin's Rule: The problem is that it wouldn't only operate regarding the ones using this voice recognition program; it would be liable to operate on those who were in the way of the boat. My suspicion is that it will be the bigger, more powerful yachts (especially power boats) that would have this, meaning the smaller guys in the way are in trouble.
Yes, very true. But the concern expressed above is that people will go totally off watch and not keep a lookout for other boats. That's just as true when you set waypoints and let the boat steer to them.
As far as Darwin's Rule: The problem is that it wouldn't only operate regarding the ones using this voice recognition program; it would be liable to operate on those who were in the way of the boat. My suspicion is that it will be the bigger, more powerful yachts (especially power boats) that would have this, meaning the smaller guys in the way are in trouble.
I tried to explain this to two of my crew once, but they wer so stupid, that all they could understand, was "power gives way to sail" We were not talking about power cruisers, we wer out of their range, we were talking about cargo ships, like fast container ships, and i explained to them, to keep out of the way of any merchant ship. But of course, they being idiots, decided merchant ships had to get out of their way.
I got woken one night, hearing someone shout "I DONT LIKE THIS" when i got out on deck, the other idiot, had grabbed the fog horn, and was sounding it, at the ship that was taking the wind from our sales, the first idiot, had steered staight towards a freighter, expecting him to alter course.
I had to explain to both of them, merchant ships, have auto pilot, and when away from land, they have one man and a dog on the bridge, and the dog is doing the watch, the man is e mailiing his girlfriend.
The moral of that story is, dont expect cargo ships to give way to you out at sea, and dont expect them to report it, if they hit you, because the third mate (who is on watch with the dog) dosent want to end his career. You stay out of their way.
I got woken one night, hearing someone shout "I DONT LIKE THIS" when i got out on deck, the other idiot, had grabbed the fog horn, and was sounding it, at the ship that was taking the wind from our sales, the first idiot, had steered staight towards a freighter, expecting him to alter course.
I had to explain to both of them, merchant ships, have auto pilot, and when away from land, they have one man and a dog on the bridge, and the dog is doing the watch, the man is e mailiing his girlfriend.
The moral of that story is, dont expect cargo ships to give way to you out at sea, and dont expect them to report it, if they hit you, because the third mate (who is on watch with the dog) dosent want to end his career. You stay out of their way.
A few years ago when preping my last boat for sale I saw a man up on a ladder working on a model I fancied. I aprached him to ask how he liked her.
He explained that the dent he was fixing (I had not asked, since he was sanding paint and it no longer looked like a dent) was cause by a steel can. He'd set the autopilot liked to a way point, and well, it took him there. Because the helm was on the centerline and so was the mast (with a big lump of furled main), he simply didn't see it. Since it was a catamaran, he tagged it solidly, only 18 inches off the centerline.
He explained that the dent he was fixing (I had not asked, since he was sanding paint and it no longer looked like a dent) was cause by a steel can. He'd set the autopilot liked to a way point, and well, it took him there. Because the helm was on the centerline and so was the mast (with a big lump of furled main), he simply didn't see it. Since it was a catamaran, he tagged it solidly, only 18 inches off the centerline.
This reminds me of an incident that happened here in Nevada about 40 years ago. A man bought a new Winnebago motor home and was driving it down from St. George Utah. He put the vehicle on cruise control got out of the drivers seat and went back to make a sandwich. The thing ended up in the desert and luckily he wasn't killed. When asked about why he did it he explained he thought it was an automatic pilot. Could have been a candidate for Darwin Award. I swear it actually happened!!
I swear it actually happened!!sorry
Sorry, but the same story was making the rounds some 20 or so years back about a tourist out here in California.This reminds me of an incident that happened here in Nevada about 40 years ago. A man bought a new Winnebago motor home and was driving it down from St. George Utah. He put the vehicle on cruise control got out of the drivers seat and went back to make a sandwich. The thing ended up in the desert and luckily he wasn't killed. When asked about why he did it he explained he thought it was an automatic pilot. Could have been a candidate for Darwin Award.
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